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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 11:40:02
Message: <4ac0d8d2@news.povray.org>
>> Sadly, the real world does not work this way.
> 
> When did you become a mind reader? ;-)

Oh please.

It's all to easy to believe that "oh if only I could just be brave 
enough to do X, everything would instantly be perfect then". Life isn't 
like that. Girls don't sit there and think "oh wow, that ugly nerd guy 
in the corner ignoring everybody is SO CUTE. If only he'd come over here 
and ask me to marry him." They think "that ugly nerd guy in the corner 
ignoring everybody is some kind of jerk".

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 11:55:02
Message: <4ac0dc56$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 16:40:07 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> They think "that ugly nerd guy in the corner ignoring everybody is some
> kind of jerk".

I re-ask the question:  When did you become a mind reader?  ;-)

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 13:54:33
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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> It's all to easy to believe that "oh if only I could just be brave 
> enough to do X, everything would instantly be perfect then". Life isn't 
> like that. Girls don't sit there and think "oh wow, that ugly nerd guy 
> in the corner ignoring everybody is SO CUTE. If only he'd come over here 
> and ask me to marry him." They think "that ugly nerd guy in the corner 
> ignoring everybody is some kind of jerk".

  How it works in real life is that you go to the gal and compliment her
for whatever, or depending on the environment, invite her to a drink or
something. If se obviously thinks you are a creep, then you forget about
it and try it another day with someone else. At some point you will find
one who will not consider you a creep but charming.

  Of course it helps if you can keep up interesting smalltalk, but without
trying to sound too smart.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:09:14
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Warp wrote:

>   How it works in real life is that you go to the gal and compliment her
> for whatever, or depending on the environment, invite her to a drink or
> something. If se obviously thinks you are a creep, then you forget about
> it and try it another day with someone else. At some point you will find
> one who will not consider you a creep but charming.
> 
>   Of course it helps if you can keep up interesting smalltalk, but without
> trying to sound too smart.

Indeed. THAT might work.

Sitting next to somebody on the train hoping that she's suddenly going 
to climb into your pants does NOT work.

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:42:33
Message: <4ac10399$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:09:18 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Indeed. THAT might work.

It does for a lot of people.

> Sitting next to somebody on the train hoping that she's suddenly going
> to climb into your pants does NOT work.

That's not what the comic is suggesting, though.  It's suggesting that if 
you just sit there and hope someone will start talking to you instead of 
saying "hi", it's going to take longer for someone to talk to you.

You're not the only shy person in the world, you know. :-)

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:43:21
Message: <4ac103c9@news.povray.org>
Jim Henderson wrote:

> You're not the only shy person in the world, you know. :-)

Oh really? And you honestly believe that, do you?

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:46:54
Message: <4ac1049e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:43:26 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> You're not the only shy person in the world, you know. :-)
> 
> Oh really? And you honestly believe that, do you?

I know it to be a 100% verifiable fact.

Jim


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:48:29
Message: <4ac104fd$1@news.povray.org>
>>> You're not the only shy person in the world, you know. :-)
>> Oh really? And you honestly believe that, do you?
> 
> I know it to be a 100% verifiable fact.

I know of other people who are merely "shy". I don't know of anybody 
else who is like me (i.e., paranoid/delusional).

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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 14:52:19
Message: <4ac105e3$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:48:34 +0100, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>>>> You're not the only shy person in the world, you know. :-)
>>> Oh really? And you honestly believe that, do you?
>> 
>> I know it to be a 100% verifiable fact.
> 
> I know of other people who are merely "shy". I don't know of anybody
> else who is like me (i.e., paranoid/delusional).

There are 6 *billion* people in the world.  I know at least half a dozen 
of them who are like you.  I've got a brother who's in his 60s who lived 
in his small apartment in Chicago for 30+ years.  He drove exactly 10 
miles a day (5 to the school he worked at, 5 back) and that was it for 
that 30 years.

His issue (and he acknowledges it) is that he has to be in control.  As a 
school teacher, he was in total control of his classroom.  On the road 
there are other drivers and he has no control over what they do.  So he 
avoided driving.

You go out and go to dances and you do other things.  My brother avoids 
the world as much as humanly possible.  By comparison, you're literally a 
social butterfly.

So yeah, I know people who are actually *worse* than you.

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Reminds me of mascot
Date: 28 Sep 2009 15:41:26
Message: <4ac11166@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I know of other people who are merely "shy". I don't know of anybody 
> else who is like me (i.e., paranoid/delusional).

  Haven't you seen how I react when Darren makes a post about C++ which
is even slightly ambiguous or not 100% positive? If that's not paranoia,
I don't know what is... :P

  Anyways, extreme shyness is very common. There's even a wikipedia article
about the subject: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love-shyness

  According to the article, in the USA alone there are about 1.7 million
males who never have a girlfriend or marry solely because of this.

  And I talk from experience too. I'm 35, no GF or wife, and probably will
never have one.

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                                                          - Warp


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