Mike Raiford wrote:
> So... God would prefer his favored creation to be divided into factions, 
> fight and squabbling, with a good deal of killing eachother, than a 
> harmonious planet were we get along?

Well, the one world government is supposed to "mark" or "tag" people as 
beasts, via... the number of the beast of course. It's demeaning to be 
marked and tracked as an animal.

> Oh, yeah, there was that whole tower of babel thing..

If I remember correctly the moral behind that story was that man was 
trying to reach God's throne in a vain fashion, and God was asserting 
his superior wisdom. "You can't reach spiritual heights with muscle/mind 
alone."

Of course, we go up into space all the time these days without 
experiencing too many mishaps.

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stbenge <" <-"@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Well, the one world government is supposed to "mark" or "tag" people as
> beasts, via... the number of the beast of course. It's demeaning to be
> marked and tracked as an animal.

Although it's the most famous contemporary interpretation of that "Mark/Number
of the Beast" thing, John's Apocalypsis is not nearly that clear. A simple
uniform sign would fit the bill, too.

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clipka wrote:
> stbenge <" <-"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Well, the one world government is supposed to "mark" or "tag" people as
>> beasts, via... the number of the beast of course. It's demeaning to be
>> marked and tracked as an animal.
> 
> Although it's the most famous contemporary interpretation of that "Mark/Number
> of the Beast" thing, John's Apocalypsis is not nearly that clear. A simple
> uniform sign would fit the bill, too.

I actually don't know the current interpretations, I was just asking 
myself, "what would the Number look like today?" I can't help but to 
think people tracking people with RFID tags or some such thing.

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stbenge <" <-"@hotmail.com> wrote:
> I actually don't know the current interpretations, I was just asking
> myself, "what would the Number look like today?" I can't help but to
> think people tracking people with RFID tags or some such thing.

Implanted chips are all the rage these days. They seem to have become quite
popular for pets already, instead of ear tattoos.

A few years ago, some company seems to actually have proposed such a chip to be
implanted into the hand as a replacement for credit cards. As you can imagine,
fundamental christians got a *bit* upset about this.

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clipka wrote:
> stbenge <" <-"@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> I actually don't know the current interpretations, I was just asking
>> myself, "what would the Number look like today?" I can't help but to
>> think people tracking people with RFID tags or some such thing.
> 
> Implanted chips are all the rage these days. They seem to have become quite
> popular for pets already, instead of ear tattoos.
> 
> A few years ago, some company seems to actually have proposed such a chip to be
> implanted into the hand as a replacement for credit cards. As you can imagine,
> fundamental christians got a *bit* upset about this.

I for one would rather not have a tag implanted into my body. Sure, a 
person would have to get close to scan you, but still... It's creepy and 
reminds me of the Borg somehow :/

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stbenge wrote:
> If I remember correctly the moral behind that story was that man was 
> trying to reach God's throne in a vain fashion, and God was asserting 
> his superior wisdom. "You can't reach spiritual heights with muscle/mind 
> alone."

... after which, God used muscle power to bring down the tower, because 
otherwise they might have reached his throne.

When you actually follow through, most of the stories make no sense. "God 
intervened to make them fail, because if he hadn't, they would have failed."

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."

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Mike Raiford wrote:
> Why are certain forms of Christianity so scared of nation working 
> together cooperatively (i.e. a single world government)?

They think that the governments will all agree to outlaw Christianity in 
general, or their church in particular.

The fact that quite a few governments, even in recently history, have 
gone after Christians simply for being Christians, certainly adds fuel 
to the flames.

In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
government with alarm.

Regards,
John

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Darren New wrote:

> 
> ... after which, God used muscle power to bring down the tower, because 
> otherwise they might have reached his throne.

But, He also scattered their languages so they could no longer work 
together and communicate.

> When you actually follow through, most of the stories make no sense. 
> "God intervened to make them fail, because if he hadn't, they would have 
> failed."
> 

Sometimes, just reading the stories makes me wonder ... maybe God is the 
evil one ... I mean, he basically sent the Jews on a wild goose chase...  :)

-- 
~Mike

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John VanSickle wrote:

> In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
> government with alarm.

Do you have some examples of this? Is this based on a fear that a single 
world government would become fascist, for example? Or is it a fear that 
individual cultures will be homogenized into a single conglomerate 
culture with no real identity?



-- 
~Mike

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Mike Raiford <"m[raiford]!at"@gmail.com> wrote:
> John VanSickle wrote:

> > In any event, there are plenty of secular reasons to regard a one world 
> > government with alarm.

> Do you have some examples of this? Is this based on a fear that a single 
> world government would become fascist, for example? Or is it a fear that 
> individual cultures will be homogenized into a single conglomerate 
> culture with no real identity?

  I think the main reason is the same as why economic monopolies are bad.

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                                                          - Warp

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