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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 09:15:33
Message: <4a704b75$1@news.povray.org>
>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
> 
> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned in 
> grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right spot on 
> the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period fighting 
> with a carton containing substandard milk.

There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of 
some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is 
to open their new-fangled milk cartons.

He nearly dropped dead. :-D


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From: clipka
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 09:50:00
Message: <web.4a70537a504d6d0fedb9d8df0@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> > I would hazard a guess that it is not in fact carefully designed :-)  It
> > just makes you want to get the CEO or MD to come and show you how to
> > open their packets!
>
> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)

Yup. Got those here whith a nice embedded plastic opening, featuring a screw-on
cap, and an air-tight tear-off plastic seal with a plastic pull ring to pull
that seal out.

Although the mechanism appears quite sophisticated at first glance, every once
in a while one of those pull rings tears apart, forcing me to resort to more
barbaric ways of opening the carton.


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From: Chris B
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 14:02:29
Message: <4a708eb5@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>>
>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned 
>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right 
>> spot on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period 
>> fighting with a carton containing substandard milk.
> 
> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of 
> some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is 
> to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
> 
> He nearly dropped dead. :-D

I remember a live TV demo when the fold-back cartons first came out, 
maybe it's the one you're thinking of. The bloke giving the demo was 
unable to pull out the top of the carton that you're meant to pour from, 
so he ended up cutting the corner off with scissors and then folding it 
down. This left a spike of cardboard in the middle, so, when he poured, 
two distinct streams of milk flowed out sideways, missing the glass he 
was aiming for.


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 16:45:00
Message: <4a70b4cc$1@news.povray.org>
Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 19:02:18 +0100 schrieb Chris B:

> Invisible wrote:
>>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>>>
>>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned
>>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right
>>> spot on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period
>>> fighting with a carton containing substandard milk.
>> 
>> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO
>> of some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it
>> is to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
>> 
How to do it right:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI

:) (BTW I personally think milk should contain at least 3.5% fat, but 
YMMV)


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 16:54:06
Message: <4a70b6ee@news.povray.org>
Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 14:15:32 +0100 schrieb Invisible:

>>> Milk cartons, anyone? ;-)
>> 
>> If the ones in the UK are anything like the ones in the US, I learned
>> in grade school that you have to apply pressure to the exact right spot
>> on the corners, or else you wind up spending your lunch period fighting
>> with a carton containing substandard milk.
> 
> There's a popular video clip [it's probably on YouTube] where the CEO of
> some milk company came on TV to show you just how drop-dead easy it is
> to open their new-fangled milk cartons.
> 
> He nearly dropped dead. :-D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-p8YpR7rJc

That one? Actually I think they shouldn't have gotten rid of this system 
- for me it worked always quite well and is less garbage than the new 
plastic screwed caps they use right now.


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 16:59:55
Message: <4a70b84b@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 29 Jul 2009 16:45:00 -0400, Florian Pesth wrote:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI

I think I lost 50 IQ points just by watching this video....

> :) (BTW I personally think milk should contain at least 3.5% fat, but
> YMMV)

I agree. :)

Jim


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 17:14:47
Message: <4a70bbc7@news.povray.org>
Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> How to do it right:

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI

  That video looks stupid... until you see that other video which you
posted about the guy using scissors to try to open it, and failing.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Florian Pesth
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 17:34:51
Message: <4a70c07b$1@news.povray.org>
Am Wed, 29 Jul 2009 17:14:47 -0400 schrieb Warp:

> Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
>> How to do it right:
> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bMbGJQR_uI
> 
>   That video looks stupid... until you see that other video which you
> posted about the guy using scissors to try to open it, and failing.

I think they are two problems with that particular design (in general I 
think the design works quite well - thats why the other video looks 
stupid):
1. The flaps are to small to apply force at the edge (I think, they made 
the folding part of the milk carton to small, maybe they did so in order 
to reduce the height and therefore the storage space)
2. They don't trust the glue to be weak enough to tear open at the force 
and rely on an overly complicated design where you have to remove the 
glued strip part - this leads to a bad edge over which you can't pour the 
milk.
In practize it has never been a problem for me, that the glue is to 
strong.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 17:58:48
Message: <4a70c618@news.povray.org>
Florian Pesth <fpe### [at] gmxde> wrote:
> In practize it has never been a problem for me, that the glue is to 
> strong.

  All milk cartons are like that here. In other words:
http://www.hs.fi/kuvat/iso_webkuva/1135236128378.jpeg (1.5 litres of milk)

  I don't know if they make it differently in other countries, but they are
quite easy to open, like in that video.

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Engineering perfection
Date: 29 Jul 2009 18:29:19
Message: <4a70cd3f$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
>   I don't know if they make it differently in other countries, but they are
> quite easy to open, like in that video.

As long as you get the right side, yes. :-)

We have like this in my part of the USA:
http://www.re-nest.com/uimages/re-nest/4-14-2009milk.jpg
http://www.wikihow.com/images/thumb/a/a4/Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg/250px-Flowery-milk-carton-)-3936.jpg

It comes sealed with a little pull-tab inside, like on a soda can, and the 
cap keeps the air out, so it lasts a bit longer.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   "We'd like you to back-port all the changes in 2.0
    back to version 1.0."
   "We've done that already. We call it 2.0."


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