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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 13:52:44
Message: <4a48ff6c@news.povray.org>
>> (Though Acrobat will only produce Windows Bitmap - the most braindead 
>> image format in widespread use.)
> 
> You forgot PPM. ;-)

That's why I said "in widespread use". ;-)

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 13:54:21
Message: <4a48ffcd$1@news.povray.org>
>> I stupidly assumed that since we have PDF editing software, it would 
>> be easy to, you know, edit the PDF file.
> 
> I'd be surprised if "PDF manipulation software" included everything you 
> needed to write documents in PDF. That would be "word processor/image 
> manipulator/font editor/PDF manipulation software" to me.

Well, you know, it's not like I'm trying to do anything complex. A few 
trivial cut/paste operations is all. But noooooo, that would be too 
useful...

> Why not write a new XSLT to take the XML from backup exec and output 
> something a word processor can handle, like RTF or LaTeX or something? 
> That's why BE is giving it to you as XML.

BackupExec does not "give" it to you at all. It displays it in screen 
for you, and lets you print it, but it won't let you "have" the 
underlying file at all. (Although it does tell you that this log is file 
38H4G28JHQ83BH94EH.XML if you're interested.)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:39:16
Message: <4A490A54.2030707@hotmail.com>
On 29-6-2009 19:52, Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Of course, she changed the regional settings - but only for her 
>>> account. That means the Windows login prompt still has the wrong keymap.
>>
>> That's one of the things they fixed on Vista. It's really obvious now 
>> how to use a different input mechanism to log in.
> 
> I can understand different users having different language settings. But 
> the friggin' keymap?? HOW can that be different for each user?!
> 
On a desktop it is possible, for a laptop a bit more difficult, although 
you can always plug in a usb keyboard... No, come to think about it, it 
should on all systems be possible. Only I would expect that it would 
take at least 5 generations for MS to get right. If on Vista it already 
works that could be an indication that MS has changed it's testing 
procedures. That reminds me that on this Vista system the exceptions 
during filecopy also finally are handled in a useful way. Something 
fishy going on. Anybody knows more?


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:40:27
Message: <4a490a9b$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
> but it won't let you "have" the 
> underlying file at all. (Although it does tell you that this log is file 
> 38H4G28JHQ83BH94EH.XML if you're interested.)

And in what sense is that not letting you have the underlying file?

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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:41:48
Message: <4a490aec@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Of course, she changed the regional settings - but only for her 
>>> account. That means the Windows login prompt still has the wrong keymap.
>>
>> That's one of the things they fixed on Vista. It's really obvious now 
>> how to use a different input mechanism to log in.
> 
> I can understand different users having different language settings. But 
> the friggin' keymap?? HOW can that be different for each user?!

You've never heard of remote logins?  (Altho I don't know at which end of 
the protocol the translation is done.)

I'm more familiar with chinese input mechanisms than french keyboards. You 
can imagine how it would be difficult to log in with a password in chinese 
if you didn't have the appropriate input drivers available from the login 
screen.

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:43:51
Message: <4a490b67@news.povray.org>
>> I can understand different users having different language settings. 
>> But the friggin' keymap?? HOW can that be different for each user?!
> 
> You've never heard of remote logins?  (Altho I don't know at which end 
> of the protocol the translation is done.)

One would *hope* RDP transports character codes, not scancodes. (But, 
knowing M$...)

> I'm more familiar with chinese input mechanisms than french keyboards. 
> You can imagine how it would be difficult to log in with a password in 
> chinese if you didn't have the appropriate input drivers available from 
> the login screen.

Hmm. I don't want to know why you know that...

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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:45:31
Message: <4a490bcb$1@news.povray.org>
>> I can understand different users having different language settings. 
>> But the friggin' keymap?? HOW can that be different for each user?!
>>
> On a desktop it is possible, for a laptop a bit more difficult, although 
> you can always plug in a usb keyboard... No, come to think about it, it 
> should on all systems be possible. Only I would expect that it would 
> take at least 5 generations for MS to get right.

Ah yes, that's the Really Fun Thing(tm). What happens if you have an 
English PS/2 keyboard and an American USB keyboard plugged in at the 
same time? The answer: No matter what keymap you select, one or other of 
the keyboards will malfunction. Isn't that wonderful?

> If on Vista it already 
> works that could be an indication that MS has changed it's testing 
> procedures. That reminds me that on this Vista system the exceptions 
> during filecopy also finally are handled in a useful way. Something 
> fishy going on. Anybody knows more?

I know little about Vista. ;-)

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From: andrel
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 14:59:47
Message: <4A490F23.2090705@hotmail.com>
On 29-6-2009 20:43, Orchid XP v8 wrote:

>> I'm more familiar with chinese input mechanisms than french keyboards. 
>> You can imagine how it would be difficult to log in with a password in 
>> chinese if you didn't have the appropriate input drivers available 
>> from the login screen.
> 
> Hmm. I don't want to know why you know that...
> 
But we do, and we know why you don't. ;)


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From: Orchid XP v8
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 15:02:50
Message: <4a490fda$1@news.povray.org>
> But we do, and we know why you don't. ;)

Hmm. I wonder what else you people know?

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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Today's venom: Acrobat
Date: 29 Jun 2009 17:15:35
Message: <4a492ef7$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> But we do, and we know why you don't. ;)
> 
> Hmm. I wonder what else you people know?
> 

More than you could imagine.

-Aero


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