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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> Actually, I think the text in the manual is supposed to mean that you
> should not power down the camera while the VR motor is actually running
> (which is good advice), but the wording is admittedly vague.
Well, it also says don't disconnect the lens from the powered-off camera
while in VR mode, lest the glass of the lens rattle about.
In any case, it doesn't matter why. The thing has like 30 buttons on the
outside, most of them multi-function, and a menu system so complex that you
can rearrange it to suit your own preferences. Yet some of the stuff is
surprisingly manual and mechanical, still. :-)
> Apparently, the manual also tells you to wash your hands after handling
> the cord, lest your future Californian children become defective.
Yeah, welcome to CA, where every product and building comes with that
warning, but nobody can tell you where or what the bad stuff actually is.
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Ken wrote:
> plenty of room to grow into the hobby.
Oh, I've got the hobby plenty. I took some 1400 film photos and 9 hours of
video in Africa. It's just the first *digital* SLR I've owned.
And I'll probably keep the three digital pocket cameras and two digital big
cameras I own in addition to this one.
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:42:29 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Well, it also says don't disconnect the lens from the powered-off camera
> while in VR mode, lest the glass of the lens rattle about.
Because the VR element is not locked in place while the VR motor is
running. Poor wording on their part I think.
> The thing has like 30 buttons on the outside, most of them
> multi-function, and a menu system so complex that you can rearrange it
> to suit your own preferences.
It is the Nikon way.
> Yet some of the stuff is surprisingly manual and mechanical, still. :-)
I would say that is a good thing.
>> Apparently, the manual also tells you to wash your hands after handling
>> the cord, lest your future Californian children become defective.
>
> Yeah, welcome to CA, where every product and building comes with that
> warning, but nobody can tell you where or what the bad stuff actually is.
Well, lead in this case. Do you actually get health warnings that do not
specify the hazard?
I checked my own camera manual: Californians are informed about
perchlorate material in the battery. No defective babies though.
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 20:42:29 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Well, it also says don't disconnect the lens from the powered-off
>> camera while in VR mode, lest the glass of the lens rattle about.
>
> Because the VR element is not locked in place while the VR motor is
> running. Poor wording on their part I think.
I think it's fine wording. My point is that I'm surprised the camera is as
sophisticated as it is, yet not smart enough to lock the VR element when you
turn off the camera. They have room to put special effects and slide show
playback (along with music) in the firmware, but not enough to say "lock the
element when he turns off the power". :-)
>> Yet some of the stuff is surprisingly manual and mechanical, still. :-)
> I would say that is a good thing.
Ehn. It doesn't really seem to do anything different from my Sony F707,
until you start doing things with remote flashes, double-exposures, and etc.
> Well, lead in this case. Do you actually get health warnings that do not
> specify the hazard?
Pretty much every building here says "this building has things in it that
are bad for you."
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> Pretty much every building here says "this building has things in it
> that are bad for you."
Do the buildings contain Californians?
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On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 21:47:16 +0200, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> I think it's fine wording. My point is that I'm surprised the camera is
> as sophisticated as it is, yet not smart enough to lock the VR element
> when you turn off the camera. They have room to put special effects and
> slide show playback (along with music) in the firmware, but not enough
> to say "lock the element when he turns off the power". :-)
I am fairly certain that the VR element is locked in place when the VR
unit disengages. You can test it yourself: Simply turn off the camera
while the VR switch is set to "On" (but not while the VR motor is
running). Does the lens rattle? Mine sure do not, and I would consider it
a serious defect if they did.
>>> Yet some of the stuff is surprisingly manual and mechanical, still. :-)
>> I would say that is a good thing.
>
> Ehn. It doesn't really seem to do anything different from my Sony F707,
> until you start doing things with remote flashes, double-exposures, and
> etc.
Well, it is a matter of how you use it I suppose.
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On 06/28/09 13:44, Darren New wrote:
> Ken wrote:
>> plenty of room to grow into the hobby.
>
> Oh, I've got the hobby plenty. I took some 1400 film photos and 9 hours
> of video in Africa. It's just the first *digital* SLR I've owned.
I'd be curious to hear (now or later) a comparison between the digital
SLR's and the film ones. I'm guessing noise would be a big benefit. But
does it improve workflow, etc?
Do you touch up (lightly or heavily) your photos using some software?
Did this change because of the digital SLR, or did you do that even with
film (darkroom? scan and touch up?).
Just curious.
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Fredrik Eriksson wrote:
>
> I am fairly certain that the VR element is locked in place when the VR
> unit disengages. You can test it yourself: Simply turn off the camera
> while the VR switch is set to "On" (but not while the VR motor is
> running). Does the lens rattle? Mine sure do not, and I would consider
> it a serious defect if they did.
>
Even that should be pretty easy to do in the firmware. I mean, the power
switch probably ain't physical, it's only logical, so it could say
"Drive VR to standby position, shut down the VR, and shut down the camera".
-Aero
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> I'd be curious to hear (now or later) a comparison between the
> digital SLR's and the film ones.
Sure. I don't imagine there'd be a big difference between a DSLR and a
decent digital camera of non-slr stripe. Of course, a digital camera where
you're viewing what the camera is viewing is a bunch easier to deal with odd
situations like long-term exposures and such.
> I'm guessing noise would be a big benefit.
I don't know what that means. Certainly the non-SLR digital cameras can be
set to be completely silent. I got many a good pictures I wasn't supposed to
be taking that way. ;-)
> But does it improve workflow, etc?
Well, the film camera originally went into books. The digital photos got
composed and then printed out on 8x11 pages. (Sadly, there are really no
decent photo composition programs out there that make putting together such
pages easy and flexible, to the point where I'd begun writing one myself.)
I later scanned and touched up the best of the printed photos, and I select
down the way-too-many digital photos I take and arrange them in directories
and such.
So the flow is utterly different, at least for vacation photos.
> Do you touch up (lightly or heavily) your photos using some
> software?
Pretty much. Mostly just contrast and such.
> Did this change because of the digital SLR, or did you do that
> even with film (darkroom? scan and touch up?).
Scan and retouch. I think film is much more forgiving of color balance and
contrast than digital seems to be.
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On 06/28/09 19:10, Darren New wrote:
>> I'm guessing noise would be a big benefit.
>
> I don't know what that means. Certainly the non-SLR digital cameras can
> be set to be completely silent. I got many a good pictures I wasn't
> supposed to be taking that way. ;-)
Graininess. As in you can take pictures at ISO 800 or higher and not
worry about too many dots showing up.
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