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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 11 Mar 2009 15:54:21
Message: <49b816ed$1@news.povray.org>
Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> 	Yeah - those are the ones. Mine seem to come on within a second.

As I think I mentioned, it seems to be a mostly-solved problem. It used to 
take tens of minutes, and when that batch burned out the new ones took maybe 
2 or 3 minutes, and this most recent batch come on within maybe 5 seconds, 
but I don't think they're as bright as the old ones were. Or my eyes are 
aging faster than I want to believe. :-)

Perhaps they traded off something to make them warm up faster? I wouldn't be 
surprised if the bulbs last much shorter than they could in order to be 
bright quickly.

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: feet1st
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 18:55:01
Message: <web.49b991b5e57dbb08a45f86ff0@news.povray.org>
Stephen <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Mar 2009 11:24:18 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>
> >I'd much rather just give the $25 to a homeless person.
>
> That's what I do. At least I know that the homeless person can get a bite to eat
> or a drink to help get to sleep.
> --
>
> Regards
>      Stephen

Then you have the problem of how do you know the person is homeless? There are
those that pack the dog and the cardboard sign in the car and drive over to
where lots of people go by, and sit there until they've got much more then is
required. Haven't you read the stories about the beggers outside of Wal-mart
making more, and tax free, then the employees on the inside of the Wal-mart?

Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which people are truely needy and
allocate appropriate money to provide enough food for them?

So you see, even the simplicity of giving to the needy can this alternative view
possible. "I'm not qualified to decide which homeless person really needs my
help, so I pay my taxes and count on the experts, which all work for the
government I guess, to do it." So, I suggest you save your $25 and instead give
them a case of soup, and two gallons of water. These things can't really be used
for any purpose other then your intended purpose.


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 19:02:17
Message: <49b99479@news.povray.org>
feet1st wrote:
> Then you have the problem of how do you know the person is homeless?

There's one "disabled vet" who hangs out around a shopping mall near us. He 
alternates limps. One day he'll have a bum left leg, the next day a bum 
right leg. :-)

On the other hand, when the young couple with the baby point to their car 
full to the brim with stuff, I'm pretty sure they're not hanging around the 
shopping center because it's profitable.

> Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which people are truely needy and
> allocate appropriate money to provide enough food for them?

You, uh, haven't been reading the news about the US economy lately, have you?

> "I'm not qualified to decide which homeless person really needs my help,

You may not be. I think I am.

> so I pay my taxes and count on the experts, which all work for the
> government I guess, to do it." 

No. I usually give to charities that I have found use a majority of the 
money to help people.

> So, I suggest you save your $25 and instead give
> them a case of soup, and two gallons of water.

No, I give $25 to Father Joe and let him feed 10 or 15 people a complete dinner.

> These things can't really be used for any purpose other then your intended purpose.

"I didn't give that homeless guy any money, because he'd just spend it on 
drugs and alcohol. Then I thought, wait a minute, that's what *I* was going 
to spend it on."

How am I supposed to judge what the best use of a homeless person's money 
is, if I supposedly can't even figure out if they're homeless?

-- 
   Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
   My fortune cookie said, "You will soon be
   unable to read this, even at arm's length."


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 19:16:47
Message: <49b997df$1@news.povray.org>
"feet1st" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message
news:web.49b991b5e57dbb08a45f86ff0@news.povray.org...

> Then you have the problem of how do you know the person is homeless? There
are
> those that pack the dog and the cardboard sign in the car and drive over
to
> where lots of people go by, and sit there until they've got much more then
is
> required. Haven't you read the stories about the beggers outside of
Wal-mart
> making more, and tax free, then the employees on the inside of the
Wal-mart?

Easy. Only give money to those not asking for it.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 19:35:08
Message: <fd6jr4tbtbbi8idnnpmnpvm2qhelqqfavg@4ax.com>
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:50:29 EDT, "feet1st" <nomail@nomail> wrote:

>
>Then you have the problem of how do you know the person is homeless? 

Not a problem.

>There are
>those that pack the dog and the cardboard sign in the car and drive over to
>where lots of people go by, and sit there until they've got much more then is
>required. 

Drive home in their Mercs, do they?

>Haven't you read the stories about the beggers outside of Wal-mart
>making more, and tax free, then the employees on the inside of the Wal-mart?
>

Why would I be reading about beggars outside of Wal-mart? There are enough in my
own country
.
>Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which people are truely needy and
>allocate appropriate money to provide enough food for them?
>

Ha! You are joking, aren't you? Do you mean the very same government that tells
the public lies to get their approval to go to war? The same government that
destroys the unions or tries to kick people off invalidly benefit and keeps
pensioners poor?

>So you see, even the simplicity of giving to the needy can this alternative view
>possible. "I'm not qualified to decide which homeless person really needs my
>help, so I pay my taxes and count on the experts, which all work for the
>government I guess, to do it."

Sorry I don't understand what you mean.

> So, I suggest you save your $25 and instead give
>them a case of soup, and two gallons of water. These things can't really be used
>for any purpose other then your intended purpose.
>

What a kind and caring person you sound. Feet first indeed!
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 19:36:06
Message: <v17jr4thb88vsg4khpapcan80t8nd1uagk@4ax.com>
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:02:13 -0700, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:

>
>"I didn't give that homeless guy any money, because he'd just spend it on 
>drugs and alcohol. Then I thought, wait a minute, that's what *I* was going 
>to spend it on."
>
>How am I supposed to judge what the best use of a homeless person's money 
>is, if I supposedly can't even figure out if they're homeless?

10 out of 10 :)

-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Fredrik Eriksson
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 12 Mar 2009 19:42:58
Message: <op.uqpdidqx7bxctx@e6600>
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:50:29 +0100, feet1st <nomail@nomail> wrote:
>
> Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which people are
> truely needy and allocate appropriate money to provide enough
> food for them?

Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which research projects are  
truly worthwhile and allocate appropriate money to provide enough  
resources for them?



-- 
FE


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From: feet1st
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 13 Mar 2009 12:20:01
Message: <web.49ba86aee57dbb08a45f86ff0@news.povray.org>
"Fredrik Eriksson" <fe79}--at--{yahoo}--dot--{com> wrote:
> On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 23:50:29 +0100, feet1st <nomail@nomail> wrote:
> >
> > Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which people are
> > truely needy and allocate appropriate money to provide enough
> > food for them?
>
> Why don't you trust your government to KNOW which research projects are
> truly worthwhile and allocate appropriate money to provide enough
> resources for them?
>
> --
> FE

Because I see so many scientists working so hard on such crucial projects out
there looking for volunteer computing resources.

To understand my last cynical comments, you have to see some of the history of
this thread.
http://news.povray.org/web.49b69f4de57dbb08a45f86ff0%40news.povray.org

I'm glad you can all see, when applied to the decision of whether or not to give
money to a homeless person, you all would feel qualified to make the choice. You
have a similar choice on distributed computing projects. Please make the same
decision there, and give DIRECTLY to those that are not asking for money (only
the idle time of you computer). The project the thread was started about is
World Community Grid. The website to get started helping with projects to feed
the world with more nutricious rice, power the world with environmentally clean
electricity and do vital research on diseases like cancer and HIV is here:
http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/
There are many other worthy causes as well:
http://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php


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From: gregjohn
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 22 Mar 2009 09:35:01
Message: <web.49c63d61e57dbb0834d207310@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>
> ...on the other hand, my PC uses a *maximum* of 650W. It cannot use any
> more power than that. Most of the time, it uses more like 100W. So,
> about as much as a single light bulb. You wanna guess how many light
> bulbs there are in this house??


I can imagine a future where the heating systems in homes will be 'puters
running computations for World Community Grid problems.


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From: Saul Luizaga
Subject: Re: World Community Grid
Date: 27 Mar 2009 07:57:11
Message: <49ccbf17$1@news.povray.org>
For a alternative explanation in a nice formated forum post please go:
http://forum.subagames.com/viewthread.php?tid=421875&page=1&extra=page%3D1#pid603224


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