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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 17:21:35
Message: <97v6o4l1vfb5082o7h4qiik5u6tg9q1jli@4ax.com>
On 30 Jan 2009 14:06:08 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> 
>> Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)
>
>Buzz!  Hesitation! ;-)
>

<hands up>

>> Versailles.
>
>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it 
>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>

Before we go, Eiffel Tower.

>> What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out
>> of 5, shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I
>> reinstalled Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the
>> vista partition. Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including
>> meshes) to an external HDD. Now I'm in the process of loading all the
>> programmes I use. At least I can winnow out the ones I installed but
>> don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so I won't have to do that
>> again, just restore an image. Phew!
>
>Ugh, sounds like fun.  Or maybe not. ;-)

Maybe not, indeed :)
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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06
Message: <4983a002@news.povray.org>
On Fri, 30 Jan 2009 22:21:08 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2009 14:06:08 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Just when you thought it was safe to go back into the water ;)
>>
>>Buzz!  Hesitation! ;-)
>>
>>
> <hands up>

Is this a robbery? ;-)

>>> Versailles.
>>
>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>
> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.

OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's start 
from Le Havre.

>>> What a carry on with my laptop. It was refusing to boot up 4 times out
>>> of 5, shutting down hard just after the option to enter the bios. So I
>>> reinstalled Vista, would you believe it formatted my HDD not just the
>>> vista partition. Luckily I saved all my Pov files (16 Gigs including
>>> meshes) to an external HDD. Now I'm in the process of loading all the
>>> programmes I use. At least I can winnow out the ones I installed but
>>> don't use. I bought a 1 TB external drive so I won't have to do that
>>> again, just restore an image. Phew!
>>
>>Ugh, sounds like fun.  Or maybe not. ;-)
> 
> Maybe not, indeed :)

Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my 
sympathies.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 1 Feb 2009 03:21:51
Message: <29mao452jnr5rvv8k2a1gjndg68gs9o5bb@4ax.com>
On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> <hands up>
>
>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>

No, just a donation to charity.


>>>> Versailles.
>>>
>>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>>
>> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.
>
>OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's start 
>from Le Havre.
>

You force me to go to Portsmouth.


>
>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my 
>sympathies.

No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year I'll have
worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a proper backup to
work.
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02
Message: <4985ef16@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> <hands up>
>>
>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>
> No, just a donation to charity.

Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.

>>>>> Versailles.
>>>>
>>>>Oooh, nice move, though it's not clear which station you're at - it
>>>>doesn't affect my move to Porchefontaine.
>>>>
>>> Before we go, Eiffel Tower.
>>
>>OK, now we've been there, it's time to head back to England.  Let's
>>start from Le Havre.
>>
> You force me to go to Portsmouth.

Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.

>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>sympathies.
> 
> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a
> proper backup to work.

LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a 
backup. :-)

A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the 
drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.

I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here, 
and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of 
space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and 
found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.

Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 2 Feb 2009 16:20:32
Message: <s9keo458h3r3j0aiaibjd6bfubdrsng9ot@4ax.com>
On 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>
>> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
>> 
>>>> <hands up>
>>>
>>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>>
>> No, just a donation to charity.
>
>Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.
>

I'll do it online

>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>
>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>

Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's hosting
a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king and queen at a
nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to see her knees up round
the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to Sunbury-on-Thames.

>>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>>sympathies.
>> 
>> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
>> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-)) a
>> proper backup to work.
>
>LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a 
>backup. :-)
>

Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin? Maintenance
and hardware maintenance at that. :)

There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files from
backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today to a basic
Vista installation without messing any other files up. Unfortunately my laptop
has developed a hardware fault where the black parts of the screen turn a
rastered green when the screen is opened too far. And it was not booting
properly from CD, shutting down with a "clunk". What I don't believe is it still
has a couple of months of warranty left.

>A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the 
>drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.
>
>I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here, 
>and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of 
>space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and 
>found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.
>
>Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)
>
A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 3 Feb 2009 20:03:26
Message: <4988e95e$1@news.povray.org>
On Mon, 02 Feb 2009 21:19:51 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 1 Feb 2009 13:51:02 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>On Sun, 01 Feb 2009 08:21:26 +0000, Stephen wrote:
>>
>>> On 30 Jan 2009 19:49:06 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> <hands up>
>>>>
>>>>Is this a robbery? ;-)
>>>>
>>> No, just a donation to charity.
>>
>>Oh, OK.  Don't forget to get a receipt for your tax return, then.
>>
> I'll do it online

Welcome to the 21st century. ;-)

>>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>>
>>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>>
> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's
> hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king
> and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to
> see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to
> Sunbury-on-Thames.

Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at 
that.  

In the same general direction, Richmond.

>>>>Having had problems like that with various laptops, you have my
>>>>sympathies.
>>> 
>>> No, I will try a restore of the system later today. You know this year
>>> I'll have worked in computing for 40 years and I've never gotten (:-))
>>> a proper backup to work.
>>
>>LOL, I hope there have been other sysadmins available who have managed a
>>backup. :-)
>>
>>
> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)

Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the 
software guys. ;-)

> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files
> from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today
> to a basic Vista installation without messing any other files up.
> Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where the black
> parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is opened too
> far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down with a
> "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of months of
> warranty left.

You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't 
think that ever happened. ;-)

>>A crashed hard drive, though, is a great way to clear the cruft off the
>>drive.  It's just too bad it takes the other stuff away as well.
>>
>>I was installing X-Plane (a really good flight sim) on my system here,
>>and ran out of disk space; installing all the scenery requires 70 GB of
>>space (it comes on 6 DL DVDs).  I started digging through the drive and
>>found a whole bunch of old junk I no longer needed.
>>
>>Probably better than a hard drive crash, too.  :-)
>>
> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)

LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up, and 
the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade the 
driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea of a 
"working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of them 
to test it.

Jim


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 10:08:59
Message: <26ajo4hol040i2qrnsdhmugfvh9np9vrtb@4ax.com>
On 3 Feb 2009 20:03:26 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>
>Welcome to the 21st century. ;-)
>

We got there 7 hours before you did :)

>>>> You force me to go to Portsmouth.
>>>
>>>Indeed, not a lot of choice there. :-)  Southampton.
>>>
>> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as she's
>> hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a pearly king
>> and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they can't wait to
>> see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up the M3 to
>> Sunbury-on-Thames.
>
>Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at 
>that.  
>
>In the same general direction, Richmond.
>

Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
Keellie's option.

I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.

>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>
>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the 
>software guys. ;-)
>

No option, generally

>> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of files
>> from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a restore today
>> to a basic Vista installation without messing any other files up.
>> Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where the black
>> parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is opened too
>> far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down with a
>> "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of months of
>> warranty left.
>
>You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't 
>think that ever happened. ;-)
>

I know, the toast landed butter side up. A miracle. A miracle.  :)


>> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
>
>LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up, and 
>the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade the 
>driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea of a 
>"working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of them 
>to test it.

Computer, who would have them? ;)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09
Message: <4989d371@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 15:08:47 +0000, Stephen wrote:

>>> Well we are running out of time since Samantha has to leave now as
>>> she's hosting a traditional Cockney music and dance night with a
>>> pearly king and queen at a nearby pub. All the locals are saying they
>>> can't wait to see her knees up round the King's Head. So lets head up
>>> the M3 to Sunbury-on-Thames.
>>
>>Hmmm, interesting but a little unexpected.  And so was your move, at
>>that.
>>
>>In the same general direction, Richmond.
>>
> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
> Keellie's option.

I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend 
who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.

> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.

Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause 
for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get 
either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that, just 
round the corner from the station.

>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>
>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the
>>software guys. ;-)
>>
> No option, generally

Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess that 
isn't really an option. ;-)

>>> There has been several occasions that I've asked for a restore of
>>> files from backups and never had a result. But I managed to do a
>>> restore today to a basic Vista installation without messing any other
>>> files up. Unfortunately my laptop has developed a hardware fault where
>>> the black parts of the screen turn a rastered green when the screen is
>>> opened too far. And it was not booting properly from CD, shutting down
>>> with a "clunk". What I don't believe is it still has a couple of
>>> months of warranty left.
>>
>>You mean it developed the problem before the warranty ran out?  I didn't
>>think that ever happened. ;-)
>>
>>
> I know, the toast landed butter side up. A miracle. A miracle.  :)
> 
> 
>>> A spring cleen is a good idea and sometimes it take a kick to do it ;)
>>
>>LOL.  That it is; sadly, the latest video driver borked something up,
>>and the sim wouldn't run anymore.  Fortunately, I was able to downgrade
>>the driver to the one that actually works, as opposed to NVidia's idea
>>of a "working new driver" that is in fact braindead and broken.  Nice of
>>them to test it.
> 
> Computer, who would have them? ;)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 17:01:46
Message: <us3ko45jik10m15ss2mg502kkfoj5k18ba@4ax.com>
On 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:

>> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the London
>> Keellie's option.
>
>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend 
>who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>

Yorkshire!

>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in Chiswick.
>
>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause 
>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get 
>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that, just 
>round the corner from the station.
>

Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.

Picadilly line to Kings X

>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>
>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to the
>>>software guys. ;-)
>>>
>> No option, generally
>
>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess that 
>isn't really an option. ;-)

That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control :)
-- 

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     Stephen


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From: Jim Henderson
Subject: Re: Be very very quiet
Date: 4 Feb 2009 21:43:10
Message: <498a523e$1@news.povray.org>
On Wed, 04 Feb 2009 22:01:36 +0000, Stephen wrote:

> On 4 Feb 2009 12:42:09 -0500, Jim Henderson <nos### [at] nospamcom> wrote:
> 
>>> Ah! The lass of Richmond Hill. OK wrong Richmond but I invoke the
>>> London Keellie's option.
>>
>>I was going to say, Richmond Hill is in Ontario, Canada (I have a friend
>>who lives there, coincidentally) - a suburb of Toronto.
>>
> Yorkshire!

Nah, Ontario.  Say 'hi' to Peter for me while you're there, and scritch 
Tasha. ;-)

>>> I'll take the district line to Gunnersbury and bide awhile in
>>> Chiswick.
>>
>>Oooh!  Cheeky move, that.  I'll switch to the Picadilly line and pause
>>for tea and biscuits in Hammersmith.  Obviously, though, I won't get
>>either of those in the actual station.  I'll go to Frank's for that,
>>just round the corner from the station.
>>
> Not true now the broadway has been redeveloped.

You'll note that I didn't say you can't get them in the station, but food 
and drink (and food particularly) should be bought outside the station - 
didn't you say something to that effect?

> Picadilly line to Kings X

Logically, the next stop is Camden Road.

>>>>> Sysadmin, whatever gave you the idea that I'd ever been a sysadmin?
>>>>> Maintenance and hardware maintenance at that. :)
>>>>
>>>>Well, then that's sensible, you should turn the backup stuff over to
>>>>the software guys. ;-)
>>>>
>>> No option, generally
>>
>>Ah, so either no backups that work or no backups that work?  I guess
>>that isn't really an option. ;-)
> 
> That's why I take copies on a flashdrive. B*gg*r the version control :)

Hehehehehehe

Jim


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