And so, last night I signed up for a YouTube account.

It took multiple attempts, mind you. For some reason, you have to click 
on every link on the site 4-5 times before the corresponding page 
actually loads. Plus the application form gets rejected if any fields 
are blank, and when it does this it helpfully blanks out some of the 
fields you already filled in (but not all of them, because then you'd 
notice it and wouldn't get caught out).

I did have a go at uploading a video, but this was an excercise in 
extreme futility. The smallest video I had handy was roughly 300 MB, and 
it took half an hour to upload 8 MB. Clearly uploading uncompressed 
video is infeasible.

I shall have a go tonight. Hopefully if I apply a really tiny amount of 
compression, the video will still be recognisable and will unload in 
less than thirteen millennia...

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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Clearly uploading uncompressed video is infeasible.

  Not only infeasible, but madness.

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                                                          - Warp

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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Clearly uploading uncompressed video is infeasible.
> 
>   Not only infeasible, but madness.

Madness?

    MADNESS!

Madness?

    MADNESS!



...damnit Warp, now I have that *thing* stuck in my head again! >_<

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rZBA0SKmQy8

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Invisible wrote:

> Clearly uploading uncompressed video is infeasible.

I just tried taking my test video and encoding it as MPEG1. On one hand, 
the file shrank from 730 MB to 6 MB. On the other hand, the picture is 
now fuzzy and indistinct. But no matter how much I turn up the bitrate, 
the file size remains the same. *sigh*

Still, I needn't have worried. Once I uploaded the video to YouTube, it 
became completely unrecognisible:

   http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_-JbSpGve_c

You now cannot even tell what it *is*! o_O

Clearly I am wasting my time here...

Don't ask me why, but I was expecting better. Oh well, I guess I should 
just give up on this as a bad job. Even if I could figure out how to 
upload my movie, if it's going to become unrecognisible like this then 
there's really no point to it.

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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> Don't ask me why, but I was expecting better. Oh well, I guess I should 
> just give up on this as a bad job. Even if I could figure out how to 
> upload my movie, if it's going to become unrecognisible like this then 
> there's really no point to it.

  You seem to have certain compulsive obsession about many things. One of
them is that you won't touch DivX or Xvid, no matter what, even though those
are the codecs which most people use to create video (including those which
go to youtube). It feels like you would jump through a thousands hoops just
in order to not to use those mpeg4 codecs. Well, your loss.

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Warp wrote:
> Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> Don't ask me why, but I was expecting better. Oh well, I guess I should 
>> just give up on this as a bad job. Even if I could figure out how to 
>> upload my movie, if it's going to become unrecognisible like this then 
>> there's really no point to it.
> 
>   You seem to have certain compulsive obsession about many things. One of
> them is that you won't touch DivX or Xvid, no matter what, even though those
> are the codecs which most people use to create video (including those which
> go to youtube). It feels like you would jump through a thousands hoops just
> in order to not to use those mpeg4 codecs. Well, your loss.

I have an MPEG1 encoder. I don't have an MPEG4 encoder. You do the math. :-P

(Besides, the video looked OK encoded in MPEG1. Trouble is, YouTube 
resized it to some much smaller spatial resolution, rendering it 
unrecognisible. The actual compression isn't *that* bad, but the 
resizing means that half the image is invisible...)

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> I have an MPEG1 encoder. I don't have an MPEG4 encoder. You do the math. 
> :-P

So get one. You can get a 15-day trial of the dix-X convertor free, and XVid 
is GNU GPL-licenced software.

> (Besides, the video looked OK encoded in MPEG1. Trouble is, YouTube 
> resized it to some much smaller spatial resolution, rendering it 
> unrecognisible.

It's all YouTube's fault.

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Orchid XP v8 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> >   You seem to have certain compulsive obsession about many things. One of
> > them is that you won't touch DivX or Xvid, no matter what, even though those
> > are the codecs which most people use to create video (including those which
> > go to youtube). It feels like you would jump through a thousands hoops just
> > in order to not to use those mpeg4 codecs. Well, your loss.

> I have an MPEG1 encoder. I don't have an MPEG4 encoder. You do the math. :-P

  Did you know that Xvid is completely free? Also x264 is completely free
if you want something even fancier.

> (Besides, the video looked OK encoded in MPEG1.

  It's not so much about image quality as about quality/size ratio.

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Warp wrote:

>> I have an MPEG1 encoder. I don't have an MPEG4 encoder. You do the math. :-P
> 
>   Did you know that Xvid is completely free? Also x264 is completely free
> if you want something even fancier.
> 
>> (Besides, the video looked OK encoded in MPEG1.
> 
>   It's not so much about image quality as about quality/size ratio.

Maybe I am baised. I did try one of these codecs one time. (I really 
can't remember whether it was DivX or Xvid, but it was one or the 
other.) I found that no matter which settings I changed, it was 
absolutely impossible to generate a video that didn't look horribly 
compressed. There seemed to be billions of settings, but none of them 
would improve the image. Everything came out fuzzy and blurry 
(especially anything blue), and there were lots of ugly blocks 
everywhere, and it just looked a mess.

Since apparently every other user on the planet doesn't have any of 
these problems, apparently I'm just too stupid to work it out...

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"Orchid XP v8" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
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> Since apparently every other user on the planet doesn't have any of these 
> problems, apparently I'm just too stupid to work it out...

Or you haven't read tutorials that they have

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