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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 26 Aug 2008 18:34:55
Message: <48b4850f@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias <JUS### [at] gmxnetware> wrote:
> It's a Samsung with Vista installed.

  Two solutions come to mind, the first one not so drastic, the second
one more drastic:

1) Upgrade to Windows XP.

2) Upgrade to Linux.

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                                                          - Warp


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 26 Aug 2008 19:02:24
Message: <48b48b80@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> 2) Upgrade to Linux.

We're almost considering that at work. Most of the computers currently run
pirated Windows XP. Except the server, which runs pirated Windows 2003, and
just today we had to fight yet another activation problem.


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 04:22:59
Message: <48b50ee3$1@news.povray.org>
Tim Nikias wrote:

> Safe mode et al yield the same black screen, just with "Safe Mode" 
> printed in the corners. Still no Taskbar or Desktop Icons...
> 
> *sigh*

Just for giggles, have you tried logging in via Remote Desktop?

(If it's a problem with the video driver, this might just work. 
Unlikely, but it's an easy thing to try...)

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 07:53:15
Message: <48b5402b@news.povray.org>
Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
> Warp wrote:
> > 2) Upgrade to Linux.

> We're almost considering that at work. Most of the computers currently run
> pirated Windows XP. Except the server, which runs pirated Windows 2003, and
> just today we had to fight yet another activation problem.

  Assuming that's illegal in your country you could do a bit of good work
and report your company to the proper authorities. ;)

  (At least here, AFAIK, there exist authorities who do take seriously
reports of companies using pirated software for their work. For this
reason basically no respectable company here uses pirated software.)

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From: scott
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 08:16:13
Message: <48b5458d$1@news.povray.org>
>  (At least here, AFAIK, there exist authorities who do take seriously
> reports of companies using pirated software for their work. For this
> reason basically no respectable company here uses pirated software.)

Same here, and if you want your company to be acreddited to any standard, 
you need to demonstrate that you have licenses for all software you are 
using.  For this reason I have some background task running on my computer 
that keeps a list of all installed programs and reports back to IT...  Any 
freeware programs I install I have to send a copy of the license to IT so 
they don't get in trouble.


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From: Jim Holsenback
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 11:21:30
Message: <48b570fa@news.povray.org>
>>> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>>> We're almost considering that at work. Most of the computers currently 
>>> run
>>> pirated Windows XP. Except the server, which runs pirated Windows 2003, 
>>> and
>>> just today we had to fight yet another activation problem.

>> Warp wrote:
>>  (At least here, AFAIK, there exist authorities who do take seriously
>> reports of companies using pirated software for their work. For this
>> reason basically no respectable company here uses pirated software.)


> scott <sco### [at] scottcom> wrote:
> Same here, and if you want your company to be acreddited to any standard, 
> you need to demonstrate that you have licenses for all software you are 
> using.  For this reason I have some background task running on my computer 
> that keeps a list of all installed programs and reports back to IT...  Any 
> freeware programs I install I have to send a copy of the license to IT so 
> they don't get in trouble.

good ..... at least I'm not the only one who raised an eyebrow on this one. 
I even give my friends who use pirated software a bad time about this. I 
won't work on ANY system that I think has pirated software!!! Shame on you 
guys (Nicolas)!!!! Also (if I were prone to this behavior) I won't admit to 
anyone

Jim


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 16:07:30
Message: <48b5b402$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Tim Nikias wrote:
>>> Last update (of course) can't be uninstalled,
>>
>> And you can't use System Restore to go back before the update? That's 
>> pretty rude.

When I was attempting things, I couldn't use "Last working 
Configuration" (or however it would be called in English, my dad is 
running the german version), Safe mode didn't work and that one time I 
did get it to work, as I said, I couldn't uninstall the latest update.

Today, however, my dad brought the laptop to his tech-support at the 
university, which, reluctantly took it in. After they got it running, 
they found that the latest update didn't download properly, which was 
the reason for all the culprit: It was attempting to install an update 
which wasn't functional or complete, and shot itself trying that.

Their fix was to delete the corrupted updates and re-download them, 
which then allowed a proper update run and everything is back to normal. 
They also accused my dad of having messed with the system, however, I 
know my dad better: He has no clue when it comes to doing maintenance on 
a PC. All he does is allow the automatic update to run.

Isn't it awesome if even the automatic updates (which *should* be 
idiot-proof, given that it's all automatic and the user shouldn't be 
able to mess things up aside of not updating at all) screw your system?

And no, that's not just Microsoft, I've heard this happen on PSP, PS3 
and various other funny systems. For months know my Mac won't play 
Starcraft/Diablo2 because Apple decided to remove the 256-color mode. 
Their solution: Install Windows using Boot Camp. *sigh*

Oh, these software corporations!

Regards,
Tim


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From: Tim Nikias
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 16:09:21
Message: <48b5b471$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Tim Nikias wrote:
> 
>> Safe mode et al yield the same black screen, just with "Safe Mode" 
>> printed in the corners. Still no Taskbar or Desktop Icons...
>>
>> *sigh*
> 
> Just for giggles, have you tried logging in via Remote Desktop?
> 
> (If it's a problem with the video driver, this might just work. 
> Unlikely, but it's an easy thing to try...)

Nope, didn't try, wouldn't have a system here with which I could try it 
anyway (assuming you need Windows and a running LAN to log in). As I 
pointed out to Darren, it seems the problem was a corrupt update 
download, so I'm not sure if a remote login wouldn't have triggered the 
"attempting update kills me"-procedure.

Regards,
Tim


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 27 Aug 2008 20:09:20
Message: <48b5ecb0@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailcom> wrote:
>> Warp wrote:
>> > 2) Upgrade to Linux.
> 
>> We're almost considering that at work. Most of the computers currently
>> run pirated Windows XP. Except the server, which runs pirated Windows
>> 2003, and just today we had to fight yet another activation problem.
> 
>   Assuming that's illegal in your country you could do a bit of good work
> and report your company to the proper authorities. ;)

I'd rather keep the job, and instead report the guy on the train today who
was selling Encarta 2008 for $10.


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Vista Updates... *sigh*
Date: 28 Aug 2008 03:27:46
Message: <48b65372$1@news.povray.org>
> was selling Encarta 2008 for $10.

Who would buy Encarta for $10 - even legally ?!?!?!


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