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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 29 Aug 2008 15:55:33
Message: <48b85435@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> Games don't have to be complex to be fun. (Tetris, anyone?) They *do*
> however need to be sufficiently devoid of irritating features like being
> hard to control or hard to see.

Agreed. Wonder why some phones come with games like golf (HUH??) instead of
snake or tetris or something like that.


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From: Hildur K 
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 30 Aug 2008 10:40:03
Message: <web.48b95a84d89d321b80197cfe0@news.povray.org>
> >>  Even so, you would think there would have to be some kind of *cause*
> >> for this. The broken drive has been tried on another machine and found
> >> to not work there either. However, the person made a comment about a
> >> second USB drive having recently failed in exactly the same way. This
> >> makes me rather suspicious...
> >>
> >
> > She might be removing[1] them without removing[2] them.
> >
> > [1] Physically
> > [2] By the eject -command
>
> But I thought the default option on XP was to allow that. Even if she had
> physically removed it the next time it was plugged in it would complain
> and ask if you wanted to run chkdsk.



use frequently, takes up to 15 minutes to save a file to a USB drive! And then
more than often the file is unreadable afterwards.


file onto the hard drive first, and then use a file manager to copy it to the
USB drive.

I think the problem with data recovery is that things have gotten too
sophisticated, especially with USB.

Back in the days I used a data recovery software which was non OS specific, you
simply burnt in onto a CD (or was it a floppy!) and it would boot up your PC
and show -everything- that was written on any disk, including deleted data and
ghost traces of data which had been moved physically. All you had to do was to
specify the disk you wanted to recover from and a healthy disk you wanted to
recover it to. I used it once to save data from a badly crashed hard drive with
around 75% success. All I had to do was to borrow (or buy) an extra hard drive
and copy to it.

The problem now is, when booting up on such an non OS specific software, to my

programs would still probably do the trick. So, unless you want to pay somebody
a lot of money to recover your data, using USB drives (small sticks or bigger
drives) for backups may not be a great idea.


card reader more than once made the stick unreadable and then the system told me
it was unformatted and I lost every single photo! By merely inserting the stick
everything was gone. There was nothing I could do about it. Very annoying!

Hildur


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 30 Aug 2008 18:07:21
Message: <48b9c499@news.povray.org>
"Hildur K." <hil### [at] 3dcafemailevery1net> wrote in message 
news:web.48b95a84d89d321b80197cfe0@news.povray.org...

> The problem now is, when booting up on such an non OS specific software, 
> to my

> cheap
> programs would still probably do the trick. So, unless you want to pay 
> somebody
> a lot of money to recover your data, using USB drives (small sticks or 
> bigger
> drives) for backups may not be a great idea.

  Wow, thanks for the heads-up Hildur. I've just bought a USB 500Gig 
external hard drive, and I'm trying to save every important doc/file to it.

    After what you've said though, I guess it's best to unplug it as soon as 
I can, and just put it in some dark corner somewhere. ;)


>

> photo
> card reader more than once made the stick unreadable and then the system 
> told me
> it was unformatted and I lost every single photo! By merely inserting the 
> stick
> everything was gone. There was nothing I could do about it. Very annoying!

    Gah, I feel for you!

     (Hope you are well).


       ~Steve~



>
> Hildur
>
>
>
>


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 30 Aug 2008 18:18:43
Message: <vkhjb45dg19r9p8u7qo66gd6lmif2b9aag@4ax.com>
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:07:12 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>
>    After what you've said though, I guess it's best to unplug it as soon as 
>I can, and just put it in some dark corner somewhere. ;)

You can store it with me Steve ;)
I think we're talking about a ram drive here not a HD.
I've had problems removing ram drive from Windows 2000 where you have to stop
the drive but not with XP or Vista.
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: St 
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 30 Aug 2008 18:41:40
Message: <48b9cca4$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen" <mcavoysAT@aolDOTcom> wrote in message 
news:vkhjb45dg19r9p8u7qo66gd6lmif2b9aag@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:07:12 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>
>>
>>    After what you've said though, I guess it's best to unplug it as soon 
>> as
>>I can, and just put it in some dark corner somewhere. ;)
>
> You can store it with me Steve ;)

     LOL! I'm sure it would be safe. Thanks mate, prepare for a 50Gig 
download!

       Hehe... :)


> I think we're talking about a ram drive here not a HD.

   Oh, I was going by what Hildur said about "small sticks or *bigger
drives*"

> I've had problems removing ram drive from Windows 2000 where you have to 
> stop
> the drive but not with XP or Vista.

      In my early days, I heard so much 'bad' as regard to win 2000 that I 
just had to go with win 98. (Like everyone else that wanted a 'computer' 
back then).

      ~Steve~



> -- 
>
> Regards
>     Stephen


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 31 Aug 2008 04:11:18
Message: <48ba5226$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> 
>     After what you've said though, I guess it's best to unplug it as soon as 
> I can, and just put it in some dark corner somewhere. ;)
> 

Having offline -backups is *always* a good idea. Imagine having your 
only backup-drive connected and mounted and getting a virus that erases 
or compromises every drive on the computer.

> 
>        ~Steve~
> 

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 31 Aug 2008 05:07:45
Message: <gtmkb455i6an1md5gnpqv50b6gop4558ma@4ax.com>
On Sat, 30 Aug 2008 23:41:32 +0100, "St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:

>> You can store it with me Steve ;)
>
>     LOL! I'm sure it would be safe. Thanks mate, prepare for a 50Gig 
>download!
>

Hay! I was talking about storing the drive ;)

>       Hehe... :)
>
	Ho! Ho! :)
>
>> I think we're talking about a ram drive here not a HD.
>
>   Oh, I was going by what Hildur said about "small sticks or *bigger
>drives*"
>

I read that differently and thought he was talking about recovery. Hmm!  

>> I've had problems removing ram drive from Windows 2000 where you have to 
>> stop
>> the drive but not with XP or Vista.
>
>      In my early days, I heard so much 'bad' as regard to win 2000 that I 
>just had to go with win 98. (Like everyone else that wanted a 'computer' 
>back then).

I've only ever used 2000 at work, where it seems one of the standards. There is
an icon on the notification area of the taskbar that you have to click and stop
the drive/USB device before removing any hardware. A real PITA until you get
into the habit :)
-- 

Regards
     Stephen


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 31 Aug 2008 15:38:30
Message: <48baf336$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
>     After what you've said though, I guess it's best to unplug it as soon as 
> I can, and just put it in some dark corner somewhere. ;)

On an external drive, chances are excellent that if something goes wrong 
with the USB controller part, you can just take the drive out of the box 
and plug it into a different one, or into your computer internally.

I don't know of any USB hard drives that aren't regular hard drives with 
USB slapped on the side (altho I expect maybe there might be some).

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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From: Eero Ahonen
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 31 Aug 2008 16:17:07
Message: <48bafc43$1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> I don't know of any USB hard drives that aren't regular hard drives with 
> USB slapped on the side (altho I expect maybe there might be some).
> 

Probably there isn't and won't be such device easily available. It's 
probably a bit cheaper (=profitable) to install ready hard drives from 
the same line which sends them to OEM computer manufacturers than to 
start making a new model.

OTOH we'll see how USB-HD's can carry on, since eSATA is also getting to 
be possible choice. I upgraded my homeserver and changed the case to a 
cheap entry-level one (still much better than it used to be.. actually I 
think it's quite good) and it has eSATA-connector in the front panel (I 
couldn't plug it in, though, since it would've used 1 SATA-connector 
from the mobo - and I needed all 6 of them inside).

-- 
Eero "Aero" Ahonen
    http://www.zbxt.net
       aer### [at] removethiszbxtnetinvalid


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Data recovery
Date: 31 Aug 2008 17:52:15
Message: <48bb128f$1@news.povray.org>
Eero Ahonen wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>>
>> I don't know of any USB hard drives that aren't regular hard drives 
>> with USB slapped on the side (altho I expect maybe there might be some).
>>
> 
> Probably there isn't and won't be such device easily available.

I didn't want to be definite. I *have* seen hard drives designed to 
replace memory sticks in high-end cameras.  (Compact Flash-shaped hard 
drives, I think?)

-- 
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)


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