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Invisible wrote:
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> Anything interesting?
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Not particularly. It was actually rather poorly written iirc, used CDO,
I believe to read the address book and propagate itself.
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48971da1$1@news.povray.org...
> That stops the machine rebooting, but it still doesn't remove the virus.
The point is that it gave you plenty of time to install whatever blaster
removal tool you had downloaded from the AV makers.
>Oh dear, I must be a really stupid n00b for not knowing something so
>"obvious". Get off my case!
The noobishness is not about not knowing something. It's about not imagining
that there are other people out there with the same problem and possibly
solutions that work, all of this a Google search away. To be fair, it took
me a while to get this, as I'm old enough to be from a generation where it
was much more difficult to learn things on the fly...
G
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Invisible wrote:
> Anybody else here have any interesting virus experiences?
I remember the fire drills going on when the Morris Worm got out, and
the Christmas Tree whatever-it-was. It was lots of fun not having
internet access for a few days.
Almost as much fun as when they blow up a train tank car full of acid in
the same tunnel that most of the east-west fibers run through in the
USA. That one took a couple weeks to fix.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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"Invisible" <voi### [at] dev null> wrote in message
news:48971da1$1@news.povray.org...
> Oh dear, I must be a really stupid n00b for not knowing something so
> "obvious". Get off my case!
LOL! N00b! ;)
Just kidding mate, but there are internet cafe's too. Been there, done
that with my '98 machine... :/
(Hey, quick thought: how about going to an internet cafe to maybe meet
someone? You know, you could give them some *specialist* info if they seem
to be having a problem?)
~Steve~
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> --
> http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
> http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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On Mon, 04 Aug 2008 14:02:40 +0100, Invisible wrote:
> Anybody else here have any interesting virus experiences?
I used to have a collection for testing purposes. Ran into a weird one
with (I think it was) Yale/Alameda on a network. Yale tried to write to
the boot sector, but with a networked drive, it couldn't do that
(redirector = no access to the drive's boot sector), but it had no error
handling for that situation.
If one was running WordPerfect 5.1 (this was the early 90's) on a machine
infected with this virus, the code would jump into a section of WP that
caused it to start writing huge temp files to the networked drive,
eventually bringing all users logged into that account down.
(We used a guest account for most of the students, was easier than
managing separate accounts for everyone and we had no need to do so -
every student saved their work to a diskette).
This situation was completely reproducible every time.
Jim
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I'm wondering: How many virus/worm infections could have been prevented
by the simple use of a firewall software (such as eg. ZoneAlarm)?
And more wondering: Why do people use Windows without a firewall software?
Even many who *know* these things and are not total n00bs.
"I never run untrusted programs nor open dubious emails" doesn't help
when a worm exploits a security hole in the system which allows it to
infect it remotely without the user doing anything. And this is something
which a firewall software will usually prevent.
(Another very important aspect of the firewall software is that, in the
case the system *does* get infected, it will stop the virus/worm/malware
from connecting to the internet behind the scenes, without the user knowing.
This is something a hardware firewall won't do, which is why a software
firewall in Windows is so important.)
--
- Warp
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Gilles Tran wrote:
>> Oh dear, I must be a really stupid n00b for not knowing something so
>> "obvious". Get off my case!
>
> The noobishness is not about not knowing something. It's about not imagining
> that there are other people out there with the same problem and possibly
> solutions that work, all of this a Google search away.
Yeah. I'm sure a few hours after MS Blaster came out there was published
info on the Internet on how to fix it. :-P
For what it's worth, I *did* check McAfee's website. (Since that was the
AV product I was actually using.) It just said "get the latest virus
defs. The virus will then be removed." This didn't actually occur. It
*detected* the virus, but refused to remove it. Really helpful, that was...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Warp wrote:
> And more wondering: Why do people use Windows without a firewall software?
NAT tends to do a really good job here too. I think most cable modems at
least are, by now, NATted.
> from connecting to the internet behind the scenes, without the user knowing.
Sadly, there are so many programs that connect out without telling the
user they'll be doing so, it's another case of yes/no overload, methinks.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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Mike Raiford wrote:
>> Anybody else here have any interesting virus experiences?
I have never seen a virus on a computer. Been lucky I guess :)
I was the local greek that every one who ask for help on their computers
in our naborhood. Every time a new virus came out everyone thought
they had it. The problems where mostly from loading games and programs
that were incompatible with the operating system. I was always getting
virus update from them. One day I got an e-mail that said there is a
virus name Such-n-Such(can remember) and if you have this exe file on
your computer you need to delete it. Of course it was on my computer. NO!
I didn't delete it. A little research showed that the file was very
important to the operating system. Lucky none of our gang delete it.
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>> And more wondering: Why do people use Windows without a firewall
>> software?
>
> NAT tends to do a really good job here too.
Yeah, that too.
Just being behind a NAT device means that random people in the Internet
can't just connect to your PC and start frobbing random ports which host
insecure services. [Insert comment about the number of services M$ has
enabled by default when Windoze installs.]
That's not to say there is no place for antivirus and/or personal
firewalls though! We still have spam email containing malware, and
websites using browser bugs to install dodgy stuff...
> Sadly, there are so many programs that connect out without telling the
> user they'll be doing so, it's another case of yes/no overload, methinks.
Well sadly yes. OTOH, many personal firewalls seem to have a list of
"trusted" applications that they don't prompt for. Who compiles this
list and how the product decides whether a given item is on that list is
another matter. (I really hope it isn't just by process image name...!)
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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