>> Sure. Because when you're not Andrew, it's really that easy. :-/
> 
> Andrew, seriously:  It's hard for *everyone*.  But people do it anyway.

Other people have social skills.

(And friends - don't forget friends! Apparently in a survay 80% of 
people said they met their husband/wife through their friends.)

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>>> Sure. Because when you're not Andrew, it's really that easy. :-/
>>
>> Andrew, seriously:  It's hard for *everyone*.  But people do it anyway.
> 
> Other people have social skills.
> 

Not all of them. I can say, from recent experience, that I have very bad 
luck at reading what people are actually saying and meaning. That alone 
is not enough of an excuse. Smiling helps, as does being able to talk to 
them. Light conversation normally, it's not often that physics will come 
up and the best conversation continuing device is "I wrote an RK4 solver 
last week." but sometimes that will work too. "Hi, how are you, have you 
seen New Movie Of The Week? What did you think of it/Would you like to 
see it?"

> (And friends - don't forget friends! Apparently in a survay 80% of 
> people said they met their husband/wife through their friends.)
> 

This is easier then finding a date. Smile, and be ready to listen to 
anyone. After you chat with them a few times, pick a day you aren't 
doing anything and invite them out to a pub to continue what ever the 
last conversation was.

See, now you've made a friend. You can do the whole thing without a pub, 
substituting other local hang out.

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>>> Er... Isn't that GRAB - TOWARDS - RELEASE - HOSPITAL?
>>
>>    Mate, if you get *past* the GRAB part, there is no hospital. Fumble 
>> away...   :)
>
> They call me the fumbler,
> Yeah the fumbler,
> I fumble round and round and round and round...

 HAHA! Yeah, that works... You're good at making those up. :)

   ~Steve~


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> "Hi, how are you, have you 
> seen New Movie Of The Week? What did you think of it/Would you like to 
> see it?"

You'd have to know what New Movie Of The Week *is* first. ;-)

A better technique seems to be to just ask the person about themselves - 
maybe that person isn't a film fanatic anyway?

>> (And friends - don't forget friends! Apparently in a survay 80% of 
>> people said they met their husband/wife through their friends.)
> 
> This is easier then finding a date. Smile, and be ready to listen to 
> anyone. After you chat with them a few times, pick a day you aren't 
> doing anything and invite them out to a pub to continue what ever the 
> last conversation was.
> 
> See, now you've made a friend. You can do the whole thing without a pub, 
> substituting other local hang out.

I tried this. The person I was speaking to started laughing.

Hysterically.

Eventually she finished laughing her **** off, and politely declained.

I asked a different person by email. I couldn't help noticing that the 
reply was written in very formal language, with strong undertones of 
"please don't speak to me ever again".

I have tried and tried and tried to convince people to be friends with 
me. So far, I have failed completely. What can I say? I guess people 
just hate me...

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Orchid XP v8 wrote:
>> This is easier then finding a date. Smile, and be ready to listen to 
>> anyone. After you chat with them a few times, pick a day you aren't 
>> doing anything and invite them out to a pub to continue what ever the 
>> last conversation was.
>>
>> See, now you've made a friend. You can do the whole thing without a 
>> pub, substituting other local hang out.
> 
> I tried this. The person I was speaking to started laughing.
> 
> Hysterically.
> 
> Eventually she finished laughing her **** off, and politely declained.

Wow, that girl's a jerk.  Seriously, very few of them react this way.

Even though the others aren't such a**holes, though, you'll still get a 
lot of rejections - the general rule of thumb for most solicitations, 
whether it's for business or personal, is that one out of 10 will say 
yes.  So don't let these two experiences put you off, just keep trying.

...Chambers

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>>> This is easier then finding a date. Smile, and be ready to listen to 
>>> anyone. After you chat with them a few times, pick a day you aren't 
>>> doing anything and invite them out to a pub to continue what ever the 
>>> last conversation was.
>>>
>>> See, now you've made a friend. You can do the whole thing without a 
>>> pub, substituting other local hang out.
>>
>> I tried this. The person I was speaking to started laughing.
>>
>> Hysterically.
>>
>> Eventually she finished laughing her **** off, and politely declained.
> 
> Wow, that girl's a jerk.  Seriously, very few of them react this way.

I think she was surprised and embarrassed rather than actually trying to 
be mean. Even so, it was *not* a pleasent reaction to receive.

> Even though the others aren't such a**holes, though, you'll still get a 
> lot of rejections - the general rule of thumb for most solicitations, 
> whether it's for business or personal, is that one out of 10 will say 
> yes.  So don't let these two experiences put you off, just keep trying.

Well, I've now "tried" with everybody I know. So until I discover some 
way of meeting new people, there's nothing further I can do now.

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Chambers wrote:

> Not if you've an open mind...

Damned neurosurgeons...

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> 4892c69b$1@news.povray.org...
>> http://www.xkcd.com/457/
>>
>> Today's XKCD neatly sums up my feelings today.
>
> Hmm, I think that the strip just means that undoing bras is friggin' 
> difficult (see the alt text), particularly when one is in a hurry. Those 
> little hooks on the back always get caught somewhere.

Yes, caught on the inside of the washing machine and the clothes dryer!

Brian

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> Chambers <ben### [at] pacificwebguycom> wrote:
>> Look at it this way:
>> There are 6 *billion* people on this planet.  Just to pull a number out
>> of my a**, that means 500 *million* people between the ages of 20 and 30.
>
>> I guarantee, the *majority* of those people _want_to_have_sex_.
>
>  But half of them are of the wrong gender...

If that was the case, mankind would have disappeared a long time ago. 
Really, both genders definitely want to have sex, and want it a lot. One 
gender may be slightly (but only slightly) pickier than the other, but it's 
not less obsessive/ravenous in its pursuit of it.

G.

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Gilles Tran wrote:

> Really, both genders definitely want to have sex, and want it a lot. One 
> gender may be slightly (but only slightly) pickier than the other, but it's 
> not less obsessive/ravenous in its pursuit of it.

This is something that has always confused me...

The boys all want to get at the girls. Nothing complicated there.

Girls are far more confusing. Your typical girl seems to definitely 
*want* a boyfriend, and is very keen to show off just how sexy and 
desirable she is. But as soon as a *real* boy attempts to make any kind 
of advance towards her, she seems deeply offended at the very 
*suggestion* that she might want to actually date such a pathetic excuse 
for a boy. Obviously she's looking for somebody far better then HIM!

Even if you start seeing her regularly and she seems to enjoy being with 
you, she still seems insulted and outraged that you might want to kiss 
her. And she is utterly repulsed by the concept that you might be 
thinking about having sex with her (much less try to actually *do* this 
for real). Apparently she just wants to hang out together and maybe hold 
hands or something.

So I'm confused - how has the human race not died out yet?

I distinctly remember that when I was about 12 or so, I became utterly 
fascinated with girls. I seemed to spend almost every waking hour 
thinking about them, feeling curios about them, wanting to have one of 
my own, wondering what they're like, etc. I'm reasonably certain I'm not 
alone in this. (!)

Presumably what's meant to happen next is that you start interactive 
with girls, find out a bit about them, start dating them, and gradually 
stop being quite so fascinated by them. (Personally, this still hasn't 
happened for me yet - presumably because I never interact with 
*anybody*, much less girls...)

I have never actually met a teenage girl in my entire life. [Ever.] So 
I'm curios... Do teenage girls suddenly become absolutely fascinated 
with boys in a similar way? Or are they *always* completely disgusted by 
the idea of interacting with them? Is it just an act? Or do girls 
genuinely hate boys?

Since the human race hasn't died out yet, you'd think it *must* be an 
act. But I don't know... that's some damned good acting... :-/

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