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Chambers wrote:
> Even 500 years ago, people knew the Earth was round.
"""
In fact, people have known since at least the 4th century BC that the
earth is round, and the pseudo-scientific conviction that we actually
live on a disc didn't emerge until Victorian times.
"""
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7540427.stm
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Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom> wrote:
> Chambers wrote:
> > Even 500 years ago, people knew the Earth was round.
> """
> In fact, people have known since at least the 4th century BC that the
> earth is round, and the pseudo-scientific conviction that we actually
> live on a disc didn't emerge until Victorian times.
> """
A disc is "round". A torus is "round". A ring is "round". A cylinder is
"round".
Why do they always use "round" to mean "spherical" in this context,
given that the meaning of the word is not very exact?
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- Warp
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On Fri, 08 Aug 2008 13:26:16 -0400, Warp wrote:
> Why do they always use "round" to mean "spherical" in this context,
> given that the meaning of the word is not very exact?
Because it reinforces the idea that we've always thought of the Earth as
spherical.
Jim
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Invisible wrote:
> I don't know about you, but every time *I* look at either the GIMP or
> PhotoShop, I can never figure out what magical trick I'm missing that
> lets you do the impressive stuff everybody else does. To me, it just
> seems to be a small set of pretty simple tools that don't appear to give
> you much power to do anything.
There are many, many tutorials available on the Web for the GIMP, and
probably for PS as well.
Whenever I need to do a new trick, I usually play around for about two
hours, then go look up a tutorial on what I'm doing, then finish it in
15 minutes.
Seriously, watching someone else do something well can give you a huge
boost in productivity.
...Chambers
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Warp wrote:
> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> Chambers wrote:
>>> Even 500 years ago, people knew the Earth was round.
>
>> """
>> In fact, people have known since at least the 4th century BC that the
>> earth is round, and the pseudo-scientific conviction that we actually
>> live on a disc didn't emerge until Victorian times.
>> """
>
> A disc is "round". A torus is "round". A ring is "round". A cylinder is
> "round".
>
> Why do they always use "round" to mean "spherical" in this context,
> given that the meaning of the word is not very exact?
>
But the earth isn't spherical, it's ellipsoidal or do I mean oblate
spheroid. ;-)
John
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Warp wrote:
> A disc is "round". A torus is "round". A ring is "round". A cylinder is
> "round".
>
> Why do they always use "round" to mean "spherical" in this context,
> given that the meaning of the word is not very exact?
Because nobody really believes the earth is a torus or a ring or a
cylinder? They're trying to distinguish "round" from "flat", not "round"
from "every other possible shape". :-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> Because nobody really believes the earth is a torus or a ring or a
> cylinder? They're trying to distinguish "round" from "flat", not "round"
> from "every other possible shape". :-)
Is Captain America's shield round? I think anyone would answer "yes".
Yet it's not spherical.
The "earth is flat" belief stated, actually that the Earth is like a
disk not too dissimilar to a round shield. *Round* shield.
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- Warp
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Warp wrote:
> Is Captain America's shield round? I think anyone would answer "yes".
> Yet it's not spherical.
Yes. And therein lies the problem: who would assume that if you said
"Captain America's Shield is Round" that you mean it's spherical? I
understand that you're saying both spheres and disks are "round", but
given that one position on the topic is "flat", then "round" is
obviously the other position on the topic.
People talk to people. Maybe you're talking to computers too much lately
or something. Seriously, I mean, did you actually not know what they
were saying? :-)
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Ever notice how people in a zombie movie never already know how to
kill zombies? Ask 100 random people in America how to kill someone
who has reanimated from the dead in a secret viral weapons lab,
and how many do you think already know you need a head-shot?
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Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
> People talk to people. Maybe you're talking to computers too much lately
> or something. Seriously, I mean, did you actually not know what they
> were saying? :-)
It's not a question about understanding or not understanding what they
mean with their words, but about desiring a bit more of unambiguousity.
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- Warp
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On 9 Aug 2008 04:37:38 -0400, Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg> wrote:
>Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>> People talk to people. Maybe you're talking to computers too much lately
>> or something. Seriously, I mean, did you actually not know what they
>> were saying? :-)
>
> It's not a question about understanding or not understanding what they
>mean with their words, but about desiring a bit more of unambiguousity.
But the word "round" *is* ambiguous, its meaning is dependant on context.
That's the English language for you.
For instance no one really expected the roundheads to have spherical,
cylindrical or disc like heads. Nor do the "flat Earthers" say that the Earth is
perfectly flat. Take these things with a pinch of salt, old bean. (Not that I
think that you are actually an ancient seed) ;)
--
Regards
Stephen
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