>>> Out of pure curiosity did the suppliers of your new oven take the old 
>>> one away for free?
>>
>> Actually no.
> 
> Was it pure gas or did it have an electric hob?

Nope, just gas.

[Did have an electric timer and temperature meter - but both of these 
elements were Fraggle-rocked.]

>> It's quite irritating really. I've been hearing all kinds of stories 
>> on the news about people stealing metal. (Not to be confused with 
>> "steeling metal".) Apparently one house had their roof stolen (?!), 
>> and a church had their bell stolen. But *we* leave an old oven and a 
>> sink sitting on our front lawn for a week or two and does anybody 
>> steal it? NO. In the end we had to *pay money* for the Council to come 
>> and take it away... grr!!
> 
> Too hard to dismantle into useable parts for melting down.

Er... a *sink* needs dismantling?? It's a sheet of metal! o_O


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On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 11:31:45 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> NO. In the end we
> had to *pay money* for the Council to come and take it away... grr!!

Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next time 
put a sign on it saying "£20", then they think they're stealing something 
of value. ;-)

Jim

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Jim Henderson wrote:

> Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next time 
> put a sign on it saying "£20", then they think they're stealing something 
> of value. ;-)

Humans are truly perverse...

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And lo on Mon, 09 Jun 2008 15:50:14 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>>> Out of pure curiosity did the suppliers of your new oven take the old  
>>>> one away for free?
>>>
>>> Actually no.
>>  Was it pure gas or did it have an electric hob?
>
> Nope, just gas.
>
> [Did have an electric timer and temperature meter - but both of these  
> elements were Fraggle-rocked.]

Ah yep those don't count, if it did have an electric hob it'd be  
classified as WEEE and they would have had to take it away with them in  
exchange for the new one.

>>> It's quite irritating really. I've been hearing all kinds of stories  
>>> on the news about people stealing metal. (Not to be confused with  
>>> "steeling metal".) Apparently one house had their roof stolen (?!),  
>>> and a church had their bell stolen. But *we* leave an old oven and a  
>>> sink sitting on our front lawn for a week or two and does anybody  
>>> steal it? NO. In the end we had to *pay money* for the Council to come  
>>> and take it away... grr!!
>>  Too hard to dismantle into useable parts for melting down.
>
> Er... a *sink* needs dismantling?? It's a sheet of metal! o_O

Not enough metal perhaps to be worth 'stealing'

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Invisible wrote:
> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next
>> time put a sign on it saying "£20", then they think they're stealing
>> something of value. ;-)
> 
> Humans are truly perverse...
> 
Reminds me of the time I tried to get rid of an old VW Caravette. I left
it in a car park in the Lake District with the keys in and all the doors
unlocked. Result: it was still there two months later untouched and not
even ticketed by the council. I had to pay someone £15 to take it away.

John

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On Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:50:46 +0100, Invisible wrote:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
> 
>> Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next time
>> put a sign on it saying "£20", then they think they're stealing
>> something of value. ;-)
> 
> Humans are truly perverse...

Indeed we are. ;-)

Jim

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>>>  Was it pure gas or did it have an electric hob?
>>
>> Nope, just gas.
>>
>> [Did have an electric timer and temperature meter - but both of these 
>> elements were Fraggle-rocked.]
> 
> Ah yep those don't count, if it did have an electric hob it'd be 
> classified as WEEE and they would have had to take it away with them in 
> exchange for the new one.

Mmm, interesting. So it has to be more than 7% electronic before it's WEEE?

>> Er... a *sink* needs dismantling?? It's a sheet of metal! o_O
> 
> Not enough metal perhaps to be worth 'stealing'

Well whatever. It's light, it's small enough for one person to carry, 
you wouldn't need to plan ahead at all. I would have thought it would be 
quite easy to remove. (They stole somebody's ROOF for goodness sake! How 
much forward planning would that require?)

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And lo on Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:50:46 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

> Jim Henderson wrote:
>
>> Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next time  
>> put a sign on it saying "£20", then they think they're stealing  
>> something of value. ;-)
>
> Humans are truly perverse...
>

Indeed you are. ;-)

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And lo on Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:54:33 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>>>  Was it pure gas or did it have an electric hob?
>>>
>>> Nope, just gas.
>>>
>>> [Did have an electric timer and temperature meter - but both of these  
>>> elements were Fraggle-rocked.]
>>  Ah yep those don't count, if it did have an electric hob it'd be  
>> classified as WEEE and they would have had to take it away with them in  
>> exchange for the new one.
>
> Mmm, interesting. So it has to be more than 7% electronic before it's  
> WEEE?

IIRC it's more to do with main functionality, if its main function (or one  
of them) is electrical/electronic then it's WEEE.

>>> Er... a *sink* needs dismantling?? It's a sheet of metal! o_O
>>  Not enough metal perhaps to be worth 'stealing'
>
> Well whatever. It's light, it's small enough for one person to carry,  
> you wouldn't need to plan ahead at all.

Easy if you want to sell it as a sink, but it's not small enough to be  
easily melted down and sold as anonymous scrap

> I would have thought it would be quite easy to remove. (They stole  
> somebody's ROOF for goodness sake! How much forward planning would that  
> require?)

A ladder and some tools. We've had the lead flashing nicked off four units  
overnight and another business some ingots, but none of their machinery or  
other items such as power tools etc.

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On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 08:58:43 +0100, "Phil Cook"
<phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote:

>And lo on Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:50:46 +0100, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
>spake, saying:
>
>> Jim Henderson wrote:
>>
>>> Sometimes if it's "free for the taking" people won't take it, next time  

>>> something of value. ;-)
>>
>> Humans are truly perverse...
>>
>
>Indeed you are. ;-)
>
Keep looking up to us, sapiens.  :p
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