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From: St 
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 16:59:09
Message: <47dee9ad$1@news.povray.org>
"nemesis" <nam### [at] nospamgmailcom> wrote in message 
news:47dee47d@news.povray.org...
> that's why I prefer tabbed browsing rather than the traditional browsing 
> mode...

 Well yes, but seriously, I have real problems trying anything other than 
I'm used to that works well 'normally' for me. And then you get this. Don't 
get me wrong, I knew about this years ago, and even have some code lying 
around here somewhere (I think, I used to have it), that could do it for my 
works website, but I'd never want that behaviour.

   And yes, I've always had FF loaded up and ready to go, but never use it. 
(Lightning strikes Steve from above, and Steve MUST try harder!)  ;)

    </Break the grip!>   ;)

     ~Steve~


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 16:59:46
Message: <47dee9d2@news.povray.org>
"St." <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote in message news:47dee683$1@news.povray.org...

>     I can't get off the page unless I click 5 times 'really' fast on the
> back button in IE6 (just discovered that in angry mode! Grr!)  :)

No need. There's a small arrow next to the back button in IE 6 (on the right
side in my browser). Click that and you'll get a drop down list of your
browsing history. Select the second entry down (which should read something
about google images). No screen shot. Is past my bed time already.

>       Is there no other way around using that code for a website with
> frames? BTW, to me frames always = tables. What am I missing with this?
>

Frames != tables. Tables are a layout tool (an abused one). Frames are used
to create sub 'windows' within one site

Some years ago there was a rash of people loading other people's content in
their own frames, making it look as if they were the author of the content.
Many website designers (myself included) have code to ensure that their site
is not loaded into other people's frames


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From: Orchid XP v7
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 17:14:25
Message: <47deed41$1@news.povray.org>
nemesis wrote:
> that's why I prefer tabbed browsing rather than the traditional browsing 
> mode...

...which leads us nicely onto "pages that use JavaScript for links".

You know, like on Zazzle, where you open a product in another tab, and 
the *original* tab also changes location, completely negating the entire 
*point* of tabbed browsing? >_<

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 17:38:43
Message: <47def2f3$1@news.povray.org>
Gail Shaw wrote:
> Many website designers (myself included) have code to ensure that their site
> is not loaded into other people's frames

If you're going to do a meta-refresh to avoid this, put a delay in 
instead of doing it instantly. That'll let people hit back mutliple 
times and actually get backwards.


-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 17:39:59
Message: <47def33f$1@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> You know, like on Zazzle, where you open a product in another tab, and 
> the *original* tab also changes location, completely negating the entire 
> *point* of tabbed browsing? >_<

Or, in a similar vein, where you say "open link in new tab/window" and 
it doesn't work, because the javascript link wants to open the content 
in a new tab/window.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     "That's pretty. Where's that?"
          "It's the Age of Channelwood."
     "We should go there on vacation some time."


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From: nemesis
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 22:05:01
Message: <web.47df303e48414a770d404d10@news.povray.org>
Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> nemesis wrote:
> > that's why I prefer tabbed browsing rather than the traditional browsing
> > mode...
>
> ...which leads us nicely onto "pages that use JavaScript for links".
>
> You know, like on Zazzle, where you open a product in another tab, and
> the *original* tab also changes location, completely negating the entire
> *point* of tabbed browsing? >_<

yes, that's really p*** me off!  So, there's no way around it:  web hackers
always find a way to destroy our fav browsing modes and even add popups in
antipopup browsers (CSS layers popups)... :P


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From: Gail Shaw
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 17 Mar 2008 23:37:09
Message: <47df46f5@news.povray.org>
"Darren New" <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote in message
news:47def2f3$1@news.povray.org...
> Gail Shaw wrote:
> > Many website designers (myself included) have code to ensure that their
site
> > is not loaded into other people's frames
>
> If you're going to do a meta-refresh to avoid this, put a delay in
> instead of doing it instantly. That'll let people hit back mutliple
> times and actually get backwards.

iirc, I usually use location.replace (or similar javascript. Can't recall,
no checking) that replaces the previous back entry, so 1 back click takes
you right out.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 18 Mar 2008 05:42:53
Message: <47df9cad@news.povray.org>
St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
> Web pages that refuse the 'back' button.

  I have noticed Firefox fixed this problem some time ago. In it, instead
of the back button going strictly to the previous page, it goes to the
previous user-specified page. In other words, if a page immediately
redirects to another page using javascript or meta refresh or whatever,
Firefox's back button will skip that intermediate page when going back.

  Quite handy. (I don't understand why *all* browsers don't do this.
It just doesn't make sense to go back to a page which effectively
immediately goes forward again.)

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 18 Mar 2008 05:49:25
Message: <47df9e35$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:

>   Quite handy. (I don't understand why *all* browsers don't do this.
> It just doesn't make sense to go back to a page which effectively
> immediately goes forward again.)

Because nobody else has realised there's a problem to be fixed yet?

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: How *annoying* is this?
Date: 18 Mar 2008 09:22:58
Message: <47dfd042$1@news.povray.org>
Warp escribió:
> St. <dot### [at] dotcom> wrote:
>> Web pages that refuse the 'back' button.
> 
>   I have noticed Firefox fixed this problem some time ago. In it, instead
> of the back button going strictly to the previous page, it goes to the
> previous user-specified page. In other words, if a page immediately
> redirects to another page using javascript or meta refresh or whatever,
> Firefox's back button will skip that intermediate page when going back.
> 
>   Quite handy. (I don't understand why *all* browsers don't do this.
> It just doesn't make sense to go back to a page which effectively
> immediately goes forward again.)
> 

All browsers do it if it is a proper HTTP redirect instead of that meta 
crap.


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