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> I realise this will probably be met with derision, but... you can edit
> video on a "normal" PC now?
Not with your idea of a "normal" PC ;-)
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From: Warp
Subject: Re: You know you've been tracing too long when...
Date: 18 Mar 2008 10:40:28
Message: <47dfe26c@news.povray.org>
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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> > A good scanner with a resolution of 4800x9600 (46 megapixels) will do.
> I've yet to see any scanner that goes above 1200 x 1200.
Don't you mean 1200 dpi? That's 1200x1200 pixel for each square inch.
If you scan a full A4 paper, that makes a total of about 14000x9900 pixels,
ie. about 138 megapixels.
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>> I've yet to see any scanner that goes above 1200 x 1200.
>
> Don't you mean 1200 dpi? That's 1200x1200 pixel for each square inch.
>
> If you scan a full A4 paper, that makes a total of about 14000x9900 pixels,
> ie. about 138 megapixels.
Mmm, good points.
Maybe that's why my mum's PC always malfunctions wildly if you *dare* to
scan anything at more than 300 DPI? (Or maybe that's just M$ PhotoEditor
being dumb, I'm not sure...)
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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: You know you've been tracing too long when...
Date: 18 Mar 2008 10:47:34
Message: <47dfe416@news.povray.org>
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47dfdb07$1@news.povray.org...
> I realise this will probably be met with derision, but... you can edit
> video on a "normal" PC now?
Some *** cell phones *** can do (basic) video editing now. So yes, it's
mainstream technology as demonstrated by millions of YouTube "directors".
You'll need lots of disc space though. A Mini DV tape translates into tens
of gigabytes.
G.
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> Mac users have been able to do it with just OS-bundled software for some
> years (although you'd be silly to attempt anything fancy), and I believe
> Final Cut Express is not very expensive. Couldn't comment on Windows or
> Linux.
Oh, sure, an Apple Mac counts as both a "PC" and "normal". ;-)
(Seriously, if you can afford a Mac, the world is your oyster...)
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Some *** cell phones *** can do (basic) video editing now. So yes, it's
> mainstream technology as demonstrated by millions of YouTube "directors".
> You'll need lots of disc space though. A Mini DV tape translates into tens
> of gigabytes.
From what I've seen of mobile phone "pictures" and "videos", the
quality as so abysmal as to be laughable. I'm talking about video that
you'd actually want to *watch*! ;-)
As for YouTube, most of it seems to be either illegal movies, mobile
phone recordings [most of which demonstrate an awe-inspiring level of
pointlessness], or footage of computer games.
[But then, I don't suppose most normal people would want to actually put
the video of their holiday in Molta on YouTube. Who would watch it? And,
presumably, it would take several weeks to upload...]
Video editing is something that moderately interests me. And I have a
digital camcorder now. But I'm not aware of any way of getting the
digital data from the camera to my PC, and that presumably means I'll
need an expensive video capture card...
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From: Nicolas Alvarez
Subject: Re: You know you've been tracing too long when...
Date: 18 Mar 2008 11:17:27
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> I realise this will probably be met with derision, but... you can edit
> video on a "normal" PC now?
Define "edit". My digital camera can trim beginning or end of a video,
right from the camera controls.
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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: You know you've been tracing too long when...
Date: 18 Mar 2008 11:23:41
Message: <47dfec8d$1@news.povray.org>
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Invisible wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>
>> Mac users have been able to do it with just OS-bundled software for
>> some years (although you'd be silly to attempt anything fancy), and I
>> believe Final Cut Express is not very expensive. Couldn't comment on
>> Windows or Linux.
>
> Oh, sure, an Apple Mac counts as both a "PC" and "normal". ;-)
Well, that depends what you mean. If you were implicitly excluding Macs
then I guess it doesn't count :) As for normal, well, I use them for the
same stuff most others use Windows machines for. It's personal tastes
really but I find it easier for most things (I'm not a big PC gamer so I
don't really lose out there).
> (Seriously, if you can afford a Mac, the world is your oyster...)
Macs are not significantly more expensive than Windows PCs. I can afford
a Mac but I am not a particularly extravagant person...
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And lo on Tue, 18 Mar 2008 15:55:45 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did
spake, saying:
> Gilles Tran wrote:
>
>> Some *** cell phones *** can do (basic) video editing now. So yes, it
's
>> mainstream technology as demonstrated by millions of YouTube
>> "directors".
>> You'll need lots of disc space though. A Mini DV tape translates into
>> tens of gigabytes.
>
> From what I've seen of mobile phone "pictures" and "videos", the
> quality as so abysmal as to be laughable. I'm talking about video that
> you'd actually want to *watch*! ;-)
My camera takes still images at 3072*2304, but movies at 640*480; mobile
s
phones at 320*240 (or better now). Neither of these items are designed
primarily for taking movies, so a trade-off has to occur. If you can mak
e
out what's happening then the quality is good enough
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2197464393936227318 (sound)
> As for YouTube, most of it seems to be either illegal movies, mobile
> phone recordings [most of which demonstrate an awe-inspiring level of
> pointlessness], or footage of computer games.
Otherwise known as 'things young geeks do' :-)
> Video editing is something that moderately interests me. And I have a
> digital camcorder now. But I'm not aware of any way of getting the
> digital data from the camera to my PC, and that presumably means I'll
> need an expensive video capture card...
If you want real-time editing and remastering back to the camera then
quite possibly; if you just want to pull the data then play with it for
burning or uploading then as Gilles said you just need capacity. How doe
s
your camera want to output data, let me guess Firewire?
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>> Oh, sure, an Apple Mac counts as both a "PC" and "normal". ;-)
>
> Well, that depends what you mean. If you were implicitly excluding Macs
> then I guess it doesn't count :) As for normal, well, I use them for the
> same stuff most others use Windows machines for. It's personal tastes
> really but I find it easier for most things (I'm not a big PC gamer so I
> don't really lose out there).
I just meant that Macs are very rare. [Despite all of Apple's efforts.]
In all the years I've been alive, I've never actually used one, or met
anybody who uses one, and I've only ever seen 1 shop that even sells
them. [Admittedly I don't know a vast number of people or go shopping
all that might, but hey.]
>> (Seriously, if you can afford a Mac, the world is your oyster...)
>
> Macs are not significantly more expensive than Windows PCs.
seperate PCs. But no, that's not significantly more expensive. ;-)
> I can afford
> a Mac but I am not a particularly extravagant person...
Depends on what you mean. ;-)
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