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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:23:23
Message: <47a6d98b$1@news.povray.org>
St. wrote:
> "Orchid XP v7" <voi### [at] devnull> wrote in message 
> news:47a426c3$1@news.povray.org...
>>> Well, I have Vista, but the graphics cards on prebuilt systems (HP 
>>> Pavilion) are usually low-end even if everything else is top-of-the-line.
>> Interesting. The new Dell laptops we have at work come with... an nVidia 

> 
>      I'll do you a swap with my card... Your company won't notice the 
> difference... ;)

LOL! Unfortunately you can't do that with laptops...

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:42:53
Message: <op.t5zul5d8c3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Sat, 02 Feb 2008 19:35:25 -0000, Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull>  
did spake, saying:

> Sabrina Kilian wrote:
>
>>> It's the "destroy the hunters" part that I can't pull off. They're
>>> almost indestructible. I mean, I managed to kill one of them, but now I
>>> have almost no ammo left at all. I used all of it to kill just one  
>>> hunter!
>>>
>>  After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
>> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
>
> Yeah - good luck hitting them though. It's almost impossible to drive  
> that vehicle! I mean, it's difficult to hit the *road*, never mind a  
> bunch of nimble-footed metal cylopses...

I have the same problems, but then I'm useless at almost every driving  
game there is.

>> First time through, I spent all the shotgun ammo on the first few
>> hunters, then switched between the crossbow and any grenade/rocket on
>> hand. That took more saves and restarts then I care to admit.
>
> I guess that's what it comes down to. The only way I'm going to complete  
> this thing is by spending several very boring days playing and replaying  
> the same 4 minutes of gameplay until I get lucky. *sigh*

If I had to take out a hunter I used the crossbow and restocked from the  
sheds, mostly I'd try to either swing around and come in from the back to  
plant the bomb on the strider (then let the resistance deal with the  
hunters) or try to lob a bomb on the strider from a distance; not funny  
when the hunters target it mid-flight and destroy it, but when it worked...

BTW am I the only one that's annoyed that when you're in the base you can  
watch a lecture on the use of this great new weapon whose alternative mode  
is designed to take down hunters, yet you don't get given one?

Oh and for the record I too got really bored with this part of the  
episode; repetative and annoying. Not to mention the three crashes on the  
PS3 during this one stage mostly when I was tactically withdrawing from  
the three hunters all firing filaments at me.

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:53:50
Message: <op.t5zu4b1sc3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Sun, 03 Feb 2008 20:02:58 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>  
did spake, saying:

> Warp wrote:
>> Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom> wrote:
>>> Isn't that what God mode is for? This *is* a PC you're talking about,  
>>> right?
>>    Cheating is for wimps. It's not honorable. :P
>
> While true, cheating at a solitary (single-player) game and admitting it  
> doesn't seem to have any dishonor to me. Now, if you bragged you beat it  
> and didn't mention you cheated, that's different.
>
> Is God mode more or less cheating than asking people online how to get  
> past the problem area? :-)

Which at times is necessary due to poor story telling on the game's part.  
'I've unloaded everything I've got into this boss and he's still  
standing', 'Yeah run around him and press that concealed switch to turn  
off the invincibilty shield', 'How the hell I was I supposed to know that?'

Likewise with cheats do you think people spend hours tapping in key  
combinations such as idkfa or on consoles up down left right X, they get  
released by the game studios themselves.

How about taking advantage of AI glitches?

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:54:10
Message: <47a6e0c2$1@news.povray.org>
>>>  After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
>>> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
>>
>> Yeah - good luck hitting them though. It's almost impossible to drive 
>> that vehicle! I mean, it's difficult to hit the *road*, never mind a 
>> bunch of nimble-footed metal cylopses...
> 
> I have the same problems, but then I'm useless at almost every driving 
> game there is.

Next time you go to the shops, try driving your car using only 100% left 
lock, 100% right lock and center. 10 points if you can do it without 
flipping your car over...

> If I had to take out a hunter I used the crossbow and restocked from the 
> sheds,

It's impossible to hit anything with the crossbow - especially such fast 
moving targets. (Well, no, actually it's *not* impossible - just 
extremely improbable. But you get lucky every now and then...)

> mostly I'd try to either swing around and come in from the back 
> to plant the bomb on the strider (then let the resistance deal with the 
> hunters) or try to lob a bomb on the strider from a distance; not funny 
> when the hunters target it mid-flight and destroy it, but when it worked...

I can't *find* the enemy to enguage them until they reach the rebel base 
- which gives you about 20 seconds to kill them. (!)

I also find it extremely difficult to throw the bomb, stick it to a 
Strider, and then switch weapons fast enough to shoot it. I don't *get* 
how all these players you see on TV manage to switch weapon in a split 
second; it takes me ages...

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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:55:22
Message: <47a6e10a$1@news.povray.org>
Phil Cook wrote:

> How about taking advantage of AI glitches?

This is the only way I can beat the computer at Go. Otherwise it 
destroys me every time...

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 04:59:40
Message: <47a6e20c@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I also find it extremely difficult to throw the bomb, stick it to a 
> Strider, and then switch weapons fast enough to shoot it. I don't *get* 
> how all these players you see on TV manage to switch weapon in a split 
> second; it takes me ages...

  You can define shortcut keys in the options.

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From: Phil Cook
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 05:10:18
Message: <op.t5zvvmnic3xi7v@news.povray.org>
And lo on Mon, 04 Feb 2008 09:54:09 -0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> did  
spake, saying:

>>>>  After beating it, I learned that hunters have a vulnerability to
>>>> automobile tires moving at around 45mph / 72kph.
>>>
>>> Yeah - good luck hitting them though. It's almost impossible to drive  
>>> that vehicle! I mean, it's difficult to hit the *road*, never mind a  
>>> bunch of nimble-footed metal cylopses...
>>  I have the same problems, but then I'm useless at almost every driving  
>> game there is.
>
> Next time you go to the shops, try driving your car using only 100% left  
> lock, 100% right lock and center. 10 points if you can do it without  
> flipping your car over...

The control system for the console really didn't help with movement and  
acceleration all on the left analogue stick; try to do a sharp turn and  
you'd accidently go into reverse i.e. stop dead.

>> If I had to take out a hunter I used the crossbow and restocked from  
>> the sheds,
>
> It's impossible to hit anything with the crossbow - especially such fast  
> moving targets. (Well, no, actually it's *not* impossible - just  
> extremely improbable. But you get lucky every now and then...)

IIRC they stop as they shoot their taser-style filaments. It's been some  
small time, I've been sucked into Oblivion.

>> mostly I'd try to either swing around and come in from the back to  
>> plant the bomb on the strider (then let the resistance deal with the  
>> hunters) or try to lob a bomb on the strider from a distance; not funny  
>> when the hunters target it mid-flight and destroy it, but when it  
>> worked...
>
> I can't *find* the enemy to enguage them until they reach the rebel base  
> - which gives you about 20 seconds to kill them. (!)

Yeah that was a hassle. I had a save just before I got out of the car and  
joined the 'squad', when the console crashed I used that save and the free  
time to orientate myself - there's the water  
tanks/cranes/sawmill/whatever, set in relation to the bomb delivery  
stations and the roads. Doing that when I hear "They're coming from the  
[blank]" I knew roughly what roads to take to get alongside and behind  
them. It's only if you get held up on one and get multiple "They're coming  
 from the ..."'s queueing up does it get messy. I think of the first wave  
only one maanged to get close enough to the base, two in the second.

Talking about the ending before the striders and just before you get sent  
to 'clear the rats' did you hang around and see what happened to the pet  
head crab?

> I also find it extremely difficult to throw the bomb, stick it to a  
> Strider, and then switch weapons fast enough to shoot it. I don't *get*  
> how all these players you see on TV manage to switch weapon in a split  
> second; it takes me ages...

May be easier on a console IIRC it's circle to switch to the grav-gun and  
circle to switch back to last weapon held.

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From: Bill Pragnell
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 05:59:24
Message: <47a6f00c$1@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
>>> Wait... The hunters in 2 don't have the vulnerability where you can 
>>> shoot them in the back to kill them? Useful when you have sniper 
>>> rifle. ;) But seriously, at least in Halo 1, they have *no* armor at 
>>> all in the lower back, where you can see a patch of orange, sort of V 
>>> shaped. Mind you, haven't played 2, since a) I don't have an XBox and 
>>> b) I don't have fracking Vista. :p
>>
>> Half-life 2 != Halo 2.
> 
> Heh. I was confused for a minute there...

I liked that about Halo. Their hunters are almost invunerable from the 
front but you can practically tickle them to death from behind. :-)


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 05:59:49
Message: <47a6f025$1@news.povray.org>
Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> I also find it extremely difficult to throw the bomb, stick it to a 
>> Strider, and then switch weapons fast enough to shoot it. I don't *get* 
>> how all these players you see on TV manage to switch weapon in a split 
>> second; it takes me ages...
> 
>   You can define shortcut keys in the options.

Ah. I see...

[Now Benny has one of those 1337 game keyboard with 40+ extra keys that 
are programmable on a per-game basis to do whatever you want. Hmm...]

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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Game opinions
Date: 4 Feb 2008 08:18:12
Message: <47a71094@news.povray.org>
Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I can't *find* the enemy to enguage them until they reach the rebel base 
> - which gives you about 20 seconds to kill them. (!)

> I also find it extremely difficult to throw the bomb, stick it to a 
> Strider, and then switch weapons fast enough to shoot it. I don't *get* 
> how all these players you see on TV manage to switch weapon in a split 
> second; it takes me ages...

  Btw, have you checked at Valve's statistics page how many people have
completed the game, even at the most difficult setting? I assume that the
vast majority (if not all of them) did not do it with cheating codes
(I would assume that Valve has made the game so that it won't send the
statistic if you completed the game in cheating mode).

  This tells that it's perfectly possible to complete the game.
I completed the game. The last battle was not easy, but doable.

  Stop talking about "it seems impossible", and just do it, because
it's not impossible.

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