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Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
> And I'm aware that Apple is
> rare but has a niche following in some parts.
Really? Have you heard of this thing called "iPod"? Are you aware of
its market share? Do you know which company produces it?
Have you followed the marketshare of this thing called "iPhone" in
the US? Do you know how many people use an Apple computer in the US?
"Rare" and "niche following" aren't quite close to the truth.
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- Warp
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Invisible wrote:
> Mathematics fascinates me; the people who made these discoveries are
> rather irrelevant. Similarly for computers, physics, and many other
> things...
Except when they're still alive and vocally influencing your
professional field.
It's like saying you're uninterested in learning about the history of
politics, so there's no reason to know who the current leader of your
country is, or what wars your country is currently engaged in.
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Of course if you want to keep saying the darnest things, just do it.
It can be helpful to learn how to BS on a topic you know virtually
nothing about. Then you spend an hour reading a half-dozen wikipedia
pages, and now you can sound like an expert in them too. ;-)
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Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Darren New wrote:
> Gilles Tran wrote:
>> Of course if you want to keep saying the darnest things, just do it.
>
> It can be helpful to learn how to BS on a topic you know virtually
> nothing about. Then you spend an hour reading a half-dozen wikipedia
> pages, and now you can sound like an expert in them too. ;-)
Except when Wikipedia is wrong... ;-)
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http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>> And I'm aware that Apple is
>> rare but has a niche following in some parts.
>
> Really? Have you heard of this thing called "iPod"? Are you aware of
> its market share? Do you know which company produces it?
Last time I checked, an iPod isn't a Mac. What I meant is that the Apple
Mac is a niche following.
> Have you followed the marketshare of this thing called "iPhone" in
> the US? Do you know how many people use an Apple computer in the US?
I'm aware Apple is trying really hard to tell the iPhone. I haven't
heard anybody with anything nice to say about it, so I had presumed that
it's not doing too well...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Darren New wrote:
> Invisible wrote:
>> Mathematics fascinates me; the people who made these discoveries are
>> rather irrelevant. Similarly for computers, physics, and many other
>> things...
>
> Except when they're still alive and vocally influencing your
> professional field.
>
> It's like saying you're uninterested in learning about the history of
> politics, so there's no reason to know who the current leader of your
> country is, or what wars your country is currently engaged in.
Random fact: I know who the 11th president of the USA was, but I have no
idea what the name of the PM of the UK is...
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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Gilles Tran wrote:
>> Interesting. I tend to think that actions rather than thoughts are what
>> gets things done.
>
> Because there are actions that are not backed by thoughts?
No - I just meant that thinking about something doesn't make anything
happen. Performin actions makes things happen. I tend to focus on the
actions that companies take, rather than the individuals who thought of
them, or why.
>> If you're saying "employers want people who know who Stallman is", then
>> maybe you're right. I don't know. I haven't got a clue what employers
>> actually look for. You probably know more about this than I do.
>
> You still don't get it. Having a job with a certain level of qualification
> implies that you maintain a some awareness of what's going on in your area
> of expertise.
My area of expertise is computer technology, not economics or business
climate or whatever the latest buzzword for it is. That's all.
> This is *** expected *** in any job that entails expertise.
As I said, maybe you're right. I don't really know.
> The problem is not about *** being *** a idiot, it's about not *** sounding
> *** like one.
OK, fair enough.
--
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*
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479008ec$1@news.povray.org...
> Gilles Tran wrote:
>> Of course if you want to keep saying the darnest things, just do it.
>
> It can be helpful to learn how to BS on a topic you know virtually nothing
> about. Then you spend an hour reading a half-dozen wikipedia pages, and
> now you can sound like an expert in them too. ;-)
It sometimes happens that I have someone on the phone asking me stuff that
I'm mostly ignorant about, while I'm frantically googling about it in real
time and providing answers as they appear on screen. There's no point trying
to hide it (people can hear the clicking anyway) but as a rule, answering
"uh, dude, what are you talking about, never heard about that" is not an
option.
The ability to assimilate lots of new info in a very short time is part of
the engineering training here (there's an exam where the student is given a
full paper and asked to summarize it in a few minutes).
G.
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Orchid XP v7 <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> I'm aware Apple is trying really hard to tell the iPhone. I haven't
> heard anybody with anything nice to say about it, so I had presumed that
> it's not doing too well...
Yeah. The Time Magazine naming it invention of the year, and 5 million
units sold in a half year, taking over 15% of the smart phone market in
the US certainly means "it's not doing too well".
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- Warp
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479073b2$1@news.povray.org...
> Random fact: I know who the 11th president of the USA was, but I have no
> idea what the name of the PM of the UK is...
Hmm, well. From what you say, you're not willing to understand the world
(and particularly people), except for the bits of trivia that do interest
you, and the occasional pair of mammaries that floats, sadly out of reach,
in your field of vision. Of course, you're fully entitled to do that.
However, keep in mind that by willingly shutting out the rest of the world,
you're actually shutting yourself in. If you're making the world - which is
made from something else than fancy algorithms - invisible to you, you can't
complain that you are invisible to it. That's a two-way relationship.
Abstruse programming languages make poor friends.
Let's quote John Donne, fellow brothers: "No man is an island, entire of
itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main".
G.
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