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From: Rune
Subject: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 08:45:19
Message: <4786216f$1@news.povray.org>
Hi

I'm testing a new way to show images in full size for my gallery on my 
website. It uses JavaScript, but to my understanding, JavaScript is so 
widely used now that virtually noone have it turned off (or else there would 
be tons of sites they couldn't use). Anyway, it has an acceptable fallback 
behaviour.

I'd appreciate if you would test it and let me know what you think about it:
http://runevision.com/3d/3dgallery1/zoomtest.html (only implemented on that 
particular page)

The current (old) behaviour can be seen here for comparison:
http://runevision.com/3d/3dgallery1/

Which do you prefer?

The JavaScript is derived from the code at the XaoS gallery:
http://wmi.math.u-szeged.hu/xaos/doku.php?id=galleries:main
...which is powered by DokuWiki, which is licensed under the GPL, so it 
should be ok to use it.

Rune
-- 
http://runevision.com


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 08:49:39
Message: <47862273$1@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:

> I'd appreciate if you would test it and let me know what you think about it:
> http://runevision.com/3d/3dgallery1/zoomtest.html (only implemented on that 
> particular page)

Yeah, that's kinda neat.

I guess the only disadvantage is that you can't easily use tabbed 
browsing with it. But that doesn't appear to be a big issue.

[I wish my monitor didn't suck so much. Half of the images come out near 
total black. Damn sucky thing...]

-- 
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http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 08:56:50
Message: <p09co3pmrgeogvi9eptngccblteed8uagi@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 13:49:38 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>
>[I wish my monitor didn't suck so much. Half of the images come out near 
>total black. Damn sucky thing...]

I think that you are too honest. I've never heard of the IT guru who did not
have good equipment. I'm sure that there must be a reason to replace your
monitor or a need for a *hot spare*.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: scott
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 09:22:07
Message: <47862a0f$1@news.povray.org>
>>[I wish my monitor didn't suck so much. Half of the images come out near
>>total black. Damn sucky thing...]
>
> I think that you are too honest. I've never heard of the IT guru who did 
> not
> have good equipment. I'm sure that there must be a reason to replace your
> monitor or a need for a *hot spare*.

Just repeatedly drop it on the floor one morning from progressively higher 
starting points until it doesn't work.  Then order a shiny new 24" LCD ;-)


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 09:27:09
Message: <bpaco3lor6r5e003aeg4lo0nrrhukt0nke@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 15:22:19 +0100, "scott" <sco### [at] laptopcom> wrote:

>Just repeatedly drop it on the floor one morning from progressively higher 
>starting points until it doesn't work.  Then order a shiny new 24" LCD ;-)

Or turn the brightness down from the inside. 
I used to do that in the old days with oscilloscopes, turn down the brightness
and remove the power light. It was a trade test to see how long it would take
the victim to find the fault. 
I did grow up a bit :)

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 09:28:49
Message: <47862ba1@news.povray.org>
>> [I wish my monitor didn't suck so much. Half of the images come out near 
>> total black. Damn sucky thing...]
> 
> I think that you are too honest. I've never heard of the IT guru who did not
> have good equipment. I'm sure that there must be a reason to replace your
> monitor or a need for a *hot spare*.

Guru? Heh. Not quite... ;-)

Besides, I want to save all the budget so we can buy *important* things 
- like replacing all those 500 MHz PCs for example.

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Mike the Elder
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 09:35:01
Message: <web.47862c0cdb03ce10e2b2e7080@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I'm testing a new way to show images in full size for my gallery on my
> website. It uses JavaScript, but to my understanding, JavaScript is so
> widely used now that virtually noone have it turned off...
....
> http://runevision.com

First of all, THANK YOU for being considerate of the viewer in your site design
and not just assuming that everyone is obligated to leave JavaScript switched

when I actually need it to do something on a site I really trust.  I understand
your predicament as I have had to use it myself in designs a couple of times in



advocate JavaScript-free design where possible, your version with JavaScript is
a well-designed compromise that I would have no cause to complain about.  Oh
BTW, nice site generally.

Best Regards,
Mike C.


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From: Stephen
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 10:14:30
Message: <05dco3p7j6fs4ijsvnpso5k1i5ma57f1nf@4ax.com>
On Thu, 10 Jan 2008 14:28:48 +0000, Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:

>Besides, I want to save all the budget so we can buy *important* things 
>- like replacing all those 500 MHz PCs for example.


Who is the most important person at your site - YOU.
Who will get no respect if they look as if they are working on an Oxfam hand me
down - YOU.
Who is responsible for supplying equipment fit for purpose - THEM.
Get what you can and don't worry about other people's gear unless you are in
charge of the budget. If they need better kit then they should be able to
justify it. 
If I were Cute Girl, I wouldn't be seen dead talking to someone who has a
monitor as bad as you describe. 

I hope that you don't think that I'm getting at you but this is your first job
and you seem not to know what is expected of you. Personally I think that your
company are taking a loan of you. You are worth more than you are getting.

Regards
	Stephen


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From: Invisible
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 10:21:19
Message: <478637ef$1@news.povray.org>
>> Besides, I want to save all the budget so we can buy *important* things 
>> - like replacing all those 500 MHz PCs for example.
> 

> Who is the most important person at your site - YOU.

Um... no, technically it's the people who sit in the lab and actually 
generate income. Everybody else is auxhilery to them, technically.

> Who will get no respect if they look as if they are working on an Oxfam hand me
> down - YOU.

Heh. I'm the youngest person here. And I'm a computer nerd. I get no 
respect anyway. ;-)

> Who is responsible for supplying equipment fit for purpose - THEM.

They don't seem to take that too seriously. [Although in the last few 
days, it seems somebody has twisted the arm of the director of finance 
to get more new PCs into the UK. Pitty they are all coming from Dell...]

> If I were Cute Girl, I wouldn't be seen dead talking to someone who has a
> monitor as bad as you describe. 

LOL! If you were Cute QA Girl, then... damn... we'd be making out right 
now! :-D Cos she's quite hot...

> I hope that you don't think that I'm getting at you but this is your first job
> and you seem not to know what is expected of you. Personally I think that your
> company are taking a loan of you. You are worth more than you are getting.

Benny said something similar. Apparently his son earns more than me by 
stacking shelves at Tesco. Oh well...

-- 
http://blog.orphi.me.uk/
http://www.zazzle.com/MathematicalOrchid*


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Web gallery test
Date: 10 Jan 2008 10:39:18
Message: <47863c26@news.povray.org>
Invisible wrote:
> I guess the only disadvantage is that you can't easily use tabbed 
> browsing with it. But that doesn't appear to be a big issue.

I always thought the point was to keep people from saving the image 
without a lot of work.

-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     It's not feature creep if you put it
     at the end and adjust the release date.


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