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Warp wrote:
> Invisible <voi### [at] dev null> wrote:
>> Actually, thinking about it, the same goes for Pirates of the Carribean.
>
> I found the second movie quite hard to follow.
I've heard quite a few people say this. I didn't find it so, particularly...
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gregjohn wrote:
> Episode Three is a fascinating study in fascism and indoctrination of the
> political and religious stripe.
Yeah. I always thought I,II,III made much more sense if you watch them
from the point of view that they're movies about Palentine. (Or however
you spell it.) :-)
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It's not feature creep if you put it
at the end and adjust the release date.
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Bill Pragnell wrote:
> 3 was good, I liked the
> puzzle-bombing concept, but it all fell apart a bit towards the end.
Disagree. The end is what made it all worthwhile: that there was
something other than just mad-bomber puzzles going on.
> Number 4 was surprisingly good but there was too much to-ing and fro-ing.
Four with the power grid bit? That was awful. The hacker characters knew
way too much about what was going on. For example, why would the
computers at the electrical substation know what valves were opening and
closing in the gas pipes in the next city over? Dumb stuff like that
kept pulling me out of it.
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It's not feature creep if you put it
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Warp wrote:
> For some reason I find the acting performance of both actors absolutely
> superb. That's another scene which I have watched dozens of times, and it's
> always as superb.
There's a movie I saw where the wife has an affair with the french
visitor she literally bumps into in the beginning of the movie. It would
have been a sucky slow boring movie except for the incredible acting
job. She's sitting on the subway, and you can just *see* her regretting
what she's done. I can't remember the name of the film, unfortunately,
but I'll ask around.
"Meet Joe Black" was similar. Good actors all around.
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It's not feature creep if you put it
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Darren New wrote:
> Bill Pragnell wrote:
>> 3 was good, I liked the puzzle-bombing concept, but it all fell apart
>> a bit towards the end.
>
> Disagree. The end is what made it all worthwhile: that there was
> something other than just mad-bomber puzzles going on.
Yeah, it definitely needed something else, but it just felt like two
different stories shoe-horned into one movie for me.
>> Number 4 was surprisingly good but there was too much to-ing and fro-ing.
>
> Four with the power grid bit? That was awful. The hacker characters knew
> way too much about what was going on. For example, why would the
> computers at the electrical substation know what valves were opening and
> closing in the gas pipes in the next city over? Dumb stuff like that
> kept pulling me out of it.
Well, surprisingly good is only a relative term! I did find most of the
plot devices pretty silly to be honest. Sounds like you had the same
sort of problems with this one as I had with the second one.
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Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
> gregjohn wrote:
>
>> Episode Three is a fascinating study in fascism and
>> indoctrination of the political and religious stripe.
>
> Erm... if I knew what you're talking about, maybe I'd agree.
>
The scene where Palpatine and Annikin watch a movie that looks like something
made by (our own) Dennis Miller. Palpatine engages in some political/
religious brainwashing there. It is so moving to me, if only because I've had
someone in my own congregation who looks like that try the same thing to a
group of us, to get us to join up in one particular sect he favored. The
gentle tone, with a touch of humor if only to show something oh-so serious....
I'd heard that Lucas was hospitalized with heart troubles when the first one
almost didn't make production schedule. You go through **THAT**, almost die
for something, and it turns out to be a massive financial success: yeah, I
might sit on by butt for Episodes 5,6,1,2,3 and let a studio make up something
half-heartedly in tune with the great storytelling vision of my youth, too.
Darren:
>... Palentine ...
Uh, is that a misspelling of Palestine or Palpatine?? :-)
I can easily see America post 9/11. Who's whom if you're talking about
Palestine?
> ... Wallace...
I'd put the Wallace trilogy in my top 12 favorite films, but the last two have
some over-done polish that "A Grand Day Out" does not.
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Orchid XP v7 wrote:
> I am curios though... I thought the original Star Wars was from the
> 1970s, whereas the film Alien was from 1985 or so?
Aliens was from 1986. Alien was the earlier one.
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Invisible wrote:
> Warp wrote:
>> Invisible <voi### [at] devnull> wrote:
>>> Actually, thinking about it, the same goes for Pirates of the Carribean.
>>
>> I found the second movie quite hard to follow.
>
> I've heard quite a few people say this. I didn't find it so,
> particularly...
2nd was OK. I only really enjoyed the 1st one. As a totally non-serious
movie.
For me, Shrek 2 had its moments, but not good enough for me to want to
watch the 3rd.
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Warp wrote:
> The Star Wars movies, especially the first one... I just don't like it.
Honestly, I think I've just outgrown them. The only one I still
consider worth watching is "Empire Strikes Back", which is definitely
the most thoughtful piece of the set.
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gregjohn wrote:
> Episode Three is a fascinating study in fascism and indoctrination of the
> political and religious stripe.
If by "fascinating study" you mean "fairly obvious and shallow".
Ooh, let's show a dictator curbing civil rights! That must make it a
deep movie, right?
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