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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Darren New wrote:
>> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>>> Fair enough. I incorrectly thought the term photon was used only
>>> for electromagnetic phenomena.
>>
>> Could be. But isn't that kind of what we're talking about? :-)
>
> I use the term electromagnetic only when there's an electric field
> coupled to a magnetic one. But I suppose that's merely my idiosyncrasy.
Probably more like because you actually studied physics. :-)
What do you call the photons that aren't coupled with both an electric
and magnetic field? Or no field at all, for that matter, such as
exchange particles inside molecules?
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Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
being export-restricted?
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And lo on Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:43:15 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] san rrcom>
did spake, saying:
> Invisible wrote:
>> True. But - at least according to Wikipedia - it's still due to making
>> electrons jump between different energy levels in atoms (rather than
>> building an electronic oscilator). It's just a lot more controlled than
>> a whitehot lump of iron...
>
> It's light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation.
I've always wondered if you Yanks wished it was light amplification by
Zowee! emitted radiation, just so it'd be spelled 'correctly' :-P
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> You need a non-ionic fluid like oils or other organic, non-aquous, fluid.
>
> Alchool could be used, as well as glycerin.
I think Cray used propylene glycol (anti freeze) at one point,
but I might be mistaken.
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Darren New nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/12 23:36:
> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>> Darren New wrote:
>>> Mueen Nawaz wrote:
>>>> Fair enough. I incorrectly thought the term photon was used only
>>>> for electromagnetic phenomena.
>>>
>>> Could be. But isn't that kind of what we're talking about? :-)
>>
>> I use the term electromagnetic only when there's an electric field
>> coupled to a magnetic one. But I suppose that's merely my idiosyncrasy.
>
> Probably more like because you actually studied physics. :-)
>
> What do you call the photons that aren't coupled with both an electric
> and magnetic field? Or no field at all, for that matter, such as
> exchange particles inside molecules?
>
There are no particles that are not coupled to a field, if at least one. It can
be electric, magnetic, strong force, weak force, gravity,...
In any molecule, the "exange" particle is the electron.
In a nucleus, you have several of them, some that are extremely heavy,
contributing to the strong or the weak force. When I say extremely heavy, I mean
that some are heavier than the whole atom! As strange as it can look.
--
Alain
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EVERYTHING HAS A GENDER
You may not know this but many nonliving things have a gender...
A Web Page is Female, because it's always getting hit on.
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Tim Attwood nous apporta ses lumieres en ce 2007/11/13 17:47:
>> You need a non-ionic fluid like oils or other organic, non-aquous, fluid.
>>
>> Alchool could be used, as well as glycerin.
> I think Cray used propylene glycol (anti freeze) at one point,
> but I might be mistaken.
>
>
It's a good termal medium. Easily available, cheap, good termal capacity,
non-corosive, non-conductive, relatively low dielectric constant to reduce
parasitic capacitance. It's very plausible.
--
Alain
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WARNING: The consumption of alcohol may cause you to think you can sing.
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Darren New wrote:
> What do you call the photons that aren't coupled with both an electric
> and magnetic field? Or no field at all, for that matter, such as
> exchange particles inside molecules?
Well, as I said, I didn't call them photons.<G>
Exchange particles inside molecules? I'm not a physicist, and never
studied that far. I didn't know that was either electric or magnetic, so
I'd expect they'd have another name for them. Can you give me an idea of
such a phenomenon?
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"Phil Cook" <phi### [at] nospamrocainfreeservecouk> wrote in message
news:op.t1qh73fic3xi7v@news.povray.org...
> And lo on Mon, 12 Nov 2007 17:43:15 -0000, Darren New <dne### [at] sanrrcom>
> did spake, saying:
>
>> It's light amplified by stimulated emission of radiation.
>
> I've always wondered if you Yanks wished it was light amplification by
> Zowee! emitted radiation, just so it'd be spelled 'correctly' :-P
With words like "jazz", "pizzazz", "razzle", "frazzle" and "razzamatazz" in
the lexicon, there are too many zeds / zees buzzing around and not enough
flyswatters.
Ugh. Just remembered "Zazzle". <shivers>
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Alain wrote:
>> I think Cray used propylene glycol (anti freeze) at one point,
>> but I might be mistaken.
>>
> It's a good termal medium. Easily available, cheap, good termal
> capacity, non-corosive, non-conductive, relatively low dielectric
> constant to reduce parasitic capacitance. It's very plausible.
I'm a geek, but I am constantly astonished by the other people round here...
(What the heck is a dielectric constant when it's at home??)
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> (What the heck is a dielectric constant when it's at home??)
Not sure on any official definition, but it determines the capacitance
between two surfaces at a given voltage.
The formula for capacitance between two plates is something like C=eA/d,
where A is the area of the plates, d is the distance apart, and e is your
dielectric value of the material between the plates.
Obviously for some situations you need to maximise C, in others you need to
minimise it...
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Mueen Nawaz wrote:
> Exchange particles inside molecules? I'm not a physicist, and never
> studied that far.
Me neither, really. I just meant whatever excange particles cause (for
exmaple) proteins to fold properly and H2O to work while H3O doesn't,
and so on.
--
Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
Remember the good old days, when we
used to complain about cryptography
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