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From: Rune
Subject: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 09:18:40
Message: <470a2e30$1@news.povray.org>
http://www.alphageeks.dk/backwards%20masking.mp4

Just one more little funny demonstration of how faulty our sense of 
perception is. :)

Rune


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From: Joel Yliluoma
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 10:12:42
Message: <slrnfgken7.h1c.bisqwit@bisqwit.iki.fi>
On Mon, 8 Oct 2007 15:18:40 +0200, Rune wrote:
> http://www.alphageeks.dk/backwards%20masking.mp4
>
> Just one more little funny demonstration of how
> faulty our sense of perception is. :)

The funny thing is, the first time I heard of that
second part was somewhere in 1989.

Some christian group had worked hard deciphering those backwards
"messages", and Zeppelin's Stairway to Heaven was but one of the
examples where they were found.
I had a tape that explained how rock music is the works of devil,
using those as examples. I don't remember anymore, but it may have
explained other things too, such as drug use or something, but at
this point that is just guessing, because I really only remember
that backwards messages part.
I don't remember the full list of examples they played,
but I remember there was also Queen's Another one bites the dust.

-- 
Joel Yliluoma - http://bisqwit.iki.fi/
: comprehension = 1 / (2 ^ precision)


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From: Lance Birch
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 10:25:29
Message: <470a3dd9$1@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:
> http://www.alphageeks.dk/backwards%20masking.mp4
> 
> Just one more little funny demonstration of how faulty our sense of 
> perception is. :)

Heh, very cool...

Lance.

thezone - thezone.firewave.com.au


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 10:30:05
Message: <470a3eed$1@news.povray.org>
"Rune" <aut### [at] runevisioncom> wrote

> http://www.alphageeks.dk/backwards%20masking.mp4
>
> Just one more little funny demonstration of how faulty our sense of
> perception is. :)

Looking at it under another light, it's a demonstration of how powerful our
sense of perception is: Someone was able to come up with the
"interpretation" and pretty much all of us "agree" with it. The day we see
the same quality/agressiveness/inventiveness and adherence to semantics, as
well as consistency, in pattern recognition at computer algorithms/programs,
computers will likely be passing the TT. BTW, more of the same here:
http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm


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From: somebody
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 10:45:38
Message: <470a4292$1@news.povray.org>
"somebody" <x### [at] ycom> wrote

> computers will likely be passing the TT. BTW, more of the same here:
> http://jeffmilner.com/backmasking.htm

PS. Of course some there are authentic backmaskings. I don't know is there
are any vocals that are intentionally designed to work both ways...


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From: Mike Raiford
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 11:34:35
Message: <470a4e0b@news.povray.org>
Rune wrote:

> Just one more little funny demonstration of how faulty our sense of 
> perception is. :)

Haven't listened to the clip, but am familiar with what backmasking is.

Brain works in such strange ways in regards to picking out patterns from 
the chaos. Amazing really how we have the ability to perceive imagined 
words from what is essentially unintelligible sound. Our brains try hard 
to find something that matches our expectations. If you're sure Rock & 
Roll is the work of the devil, playing music backwards is sure to give 
contorted versions of demonic chants, commands and invocations.

Even more fascinating is hallucinations (perceiving something that 
doesn't even exist, out of nothing), especially when they run counter to 
conscious expectations ... :)


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From: Darren New
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 16:06:50
Message: <470a8dda@news.povray.org>
Joel Yliluoma wrote:
> I had a tape that explained how rock music is the works of devil,
> using those as examples. 

Know what happens if you play country music backwards?

Your wife comes back, your dog likes you again, you get a new job...


-- 
   Darren New / San Diego, CA, USA (PST)
     Remember the good old days, when we
     used to complain about cryptography
     being export-restricted?


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From: Sherry Shaw
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 8 Oct 2007 19:56:33
Message: <470ac3b1@news.povray.org>
Darren New wrote:
> 
> Know what happens if you play country music backwards?
> 
> Your wife comes back, your dog likes you again, you get a new job...
> 

Know what happens if you play Beethoven backwards?

He decomposes...


--(Refuses to sign her name to this)


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From: Brian Elliott
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 9 Oct 2007 05:48:12
Message: <470b4e5c$1@news.povray.org>
"Sherry Shaw" <ten### [at] aolcom> wrote in message 
news:470ac3b1@news.povray.org...
> Darren New wrote:
>>
>> Know what happens if you play country music backwards?
>>
>> Your wife comes back, your dog likes you again, you get a new job...
>>
>
> Know what happens if you play Beethoven backwards?
>
> He decomposes...
>
>
> --(Refuses to sign her name to this)

Know what happens if you play new-age music backwards?

New-age music.


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From: Warp
Subject: Re: Backmasking and pattern recognision
Date: 9 Oct 2007 07:01:51
Message: <470b5f9f@news.povray.org>
somebody <x### [at] ycom> wrote:
> Looking at it under another light, it's a demonstration of how powerful our
> sense of perception is

  I'm sure that the human pattern recognition capability is crucial
from the point of view of human progress, compared to animals. There
may be some side-effects to this advanced pattern recognition ability,
as demonstrated in the video, but it's mostly harmless (from progress
point of view, that is).

-- 
                                                          - Warp


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