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http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Its-All-About-C,-The-CIA-Interview,--Not
-People-Like-You.aspx
Just to let you know that you're not the only one with bad experiences
from job searches J
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
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Chambers wrote:
> http://thedailywtf.com/Articles/Its-All-About-C,-The-CIA-Interview,--Not
> -People-Like-You.aspx
http://tinyurl.com/9au6ru
> Just to let you know that you're not the only one with bad experiences
> from job searches J
"What's THIS?"
"BSc in Computer Science?"
"Do you have any idea what we DO here?"
"You examine computer-related patents?"
"Exactly. We don't need people like YOU here!"
Riiight. Suddenly a whole lot of patents make perfect sense... ;-)
Seriously, this this kind of stupidity happen in any other industry?
Does anybody hire an electrician who obviously knows nothing about
electricity? Do people hire plumbers who don't know how to plumb? Has
any brick layer ever been to an interview where the interviewer clearly
hasn't got a clue how bricks actually work??
Inquiring minds want to know...
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Invisible wrote:
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> Riiight. Suddenly a whole lot of patents make perfect sense... ;-)
>
Should read:
Suddenly a whole lot of *software* patents make perfect sense ...
> Seriously, this this kind of stupidity happen in any other industry?
> Does anybody hire an electrician who obviously knows nothing about
> electricity? Do people hire plumbers who don't know how to plumb? Has
> any brick layer ever been to an interview where the interviewer clearly
> hasn't got a clue how bricks actually work??
>
You haven't seen the hiring practices by the construction subcontractors
out here ...
They pull up to a day labor station, load 'em up in the back of their
pick-up, and drive them to the job site. Of course, electrical and
plumbing are double checked after the work is done by someone who is
certified.
But, laying bricks? Nah.
> Inquiring minds want to know...
--
~Mike
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>> Riiight. Suddenly a whole lot of patents make perfect sense... ;-)
>
> Should read:
>
> Suddenly a whole lot of *software* patents make perfect sense ...
Or rather, suddenly the concept of even allowing software patents in the
first place makes sense!
> You haven't seen the hiring practices by the construction subcontractors
> out here ...
>
> They pull up to a day labor station, load 'em up in the back of their
> pick-up, and drive them to the job site. Of course, electrical and
> plumbing are double checked after the work is done by someone who is
> certified.
>
> But, laying bricks? Nah.
And now I understand why I work in a building where the doors don't work
properly! o_O
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Invisible wrote:
>> They pull up to a day labor station, load 'em up in the back of their
>> pick-up, and drive them to the job site. Of course, electrical and
>> plumbing are double checked after the work is done by someone who is
>> certified.
>>
>> But, laying bricks? Nah.
>
> And now I understand why I work in a building where the doors don't work
> properly! o_O
Dunno what the situation is in the UK, but here in the state that
borders Mexico, the subcontractors take advantage of the immigrants from
down south, knowing that they're probably "under the radar" they can
simply pay them by the day, and know they can pay below minimum wage and
get away with it, because if they complained about their pay rate,
they'd likely be deported anyway since they don't have a work visa, or
citizenship.
It's sad, but that's how things work around here.
--
~Mike
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Invisible [mailto:voi### [at] dev null]
> Seriously, this this kind of stupidity happen in any other industry?
YES.
It's when Managers think that their skill set (of "managing") is
transferrable to other industries.
Things like moving from manager of a McDonalds to managing a Taco Bell
probably aren't too hard (except for the possible cultural shift), but
moving from managing an Insurance Agency to managing a Bank aren't
exactly equivalent.
Then you get, like in the case you quoted, a manager with a strong
mechanical engineering background who has to manage an office concerned
with IT.
Yes, it happens.
...Ben Chambers
www.pacificwebguy.com
I'd like to live in Theory. Everything works there.
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Chambers wrote:
> Then you get, like in the case you quoted, a manager with a strong
> mechanical engineering background who has to manage an office concerned
> with IT.
Or, in my case, managing insurance salesmen vs managing insurance software
development. FAIL
--
Darren New, San Diego CA, USA (PST)
Why is there a chainsaw in DOOM?
There aren't any trees on Mars.
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>> Seriously, this this kind of stupidity happen in any other industry?
>
> YES.
>
> It's when Managers think that their skill set (of "managing") is
> transferrable to other industries.
Here's a thought: Some people seem to apply this backwards too. Stuff
like this:
"Hey, we need a new manager for the machine floor."
"Let's find the best machine operator there is and promote them!"
"Great idea!"
Except that, AFAIK, "managing" is about people skills. Somebody who's
really good at operating a complex machine isn't necessarily good with
people. They might be, but it doesn't automatically follow.
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> "Hey, we need a new manager for the machine floor."
> "Let's find the best machine operator there is and promote them!"
> "Great idea!"
What more often happens though is this:
"Hey, we need a new manager for the machine floor."
"Let's find the best section team leader there is and promote them!"
"Great idea!"
> Except that, AFAIK, "managing" is about people skills. Somebody who's
> really good at operating a complex machine isn't necessarily good with
> people. They might be, but it doesn't automatically follow.
That's why most companies will offer jobs between "machine operator" and
"manager" so that they can gradually train and progress the ones they notice
might be good at managing. The ones who are quite happy to stay as machine
operator can, and the ones who want to progress can move to "senior machine
operator", "team leader", "section chief", "manager" etc.
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