"R'Lee" <nomail@nomail> wrote in message 
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>>
>>Far be it from this newbie to even suggest that changes be made but if my 
>>suggestions lead to a clearer tutorial then
> I am just glad I could help.
> R'
>

Yes indeed. I think Dr John is right that the tutorials were written a very 
long time ago and probably quite a few versions ago, so if you spot anything 
that needs attention then it's well worth pointing it out. Jim put the 
content of the help on the Wiki quite recently to make it easier to update. 
I believe the intention is that updates should then be reflected back into 
the help file for future releases.

Once I mastered the technique of grabbing the page source to paste into the 
Talk page it proved quite quick and easy to make the changes. :-)

Regards,
Chris B.

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"Chris B" <nom### [at] nomailcom> wrote in message 
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> I've modified two further tutorial pages (Sections 3 and 3.3). The 3 pages 
> in total were the only ones thrown up by a google search of the Wiki site 
> for '200x150' or by a Wiki search for the same string.

Thank you very much ... those changes have been merged as well!

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"Jim Holsenback" <jho### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message 
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> Even with the original page locked down you still should be able to select 
> the "edit" function to bring up the built in  editor to copy the sections 
> or passages of interest. You just won't be able to make a save to the 
> original. After getting the text (wiki markup and all) into copy buffer 
> just cancel the edit. Go to the talk page (even it's a new one) and paste 
> the whole glob into the edit window and save (talk pages aren't locked 
> down)

Thought I also should mention that the "edit" links at top and bottom bring 
up the whole page, whereas the "edit" links to the right of each section 
brings up just that section. If corrections are limited to just one section, 
the entire page isn't necessary.

Jim

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> Howdy All. While exploring the Internet for artistic inspiration I happened
> across POV-Ray and decided to give it a try. That was Yesterday. I began working
> my way through the tutorials of course. Right off the bat I noticed that the
> tutorial in describing lighting makes reference to something which is not
> obviously available in the program. Specifically the tutorial says to render one
> of the examples at "200x150 -A" This setting is not readily available in the
> preset rendering options drop down. Not only is this setting not available but
> editing the file for the resolutions where none of the settings look anything
> like what is already in the file.
> This resolution is not readily available without going into parts of the program
> that a newbie shouldn't go into until at least the beginning of the advanced
> tutorials.

It sometimes take a fresh eye to spot such things. "Old timers" will 
tend to skip over those parts without realising it.

> Well it's just my opinion having found similar situations in many tutorials
> throughout the internet. The problem is one of a program coming out with a new
> version (call it an updated version if you like) and the tutorials not being up
> to date with the new version.
> This situation has a tendency of confusing a person who is simply trying to
> learn a program.

You are right. It was an old left over from way back. Possibly before 
version 3.0.

> 
> Well anyway...I just wanted to drop in and say Hey. I am fairly excited about
> learning this new (to me) program. It looks like just the software I've been
> looking for to render some art projects I've had rattling around my brain pan
> for a while.
> 
> Well I guess that's enough for my first rant.
> Hope you guys will help where the tutorials fall through as I've described
> above.
> 
> R'
> 
> 

Welcome to our comunity.

You can easily add your own resolutions. Just open "quickres.ini" in 
notepad and add your new sections.
The format is:
[320x200, No AA]
Width=320
Height=200
Antialias=Off

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>> Howdy All. While exploring the Internet for artistic inspiration I 
>> happened
>> across POV-Ray and decided to give it a try. That was Yesterday. I 
>> began working
>> my way through the tutorials of course. Right off the bat I noticed 
>> that the
>> tutorial in describing lighting makes reference to something which is not
>> obviously available in the program. Specifically the tutorial says to 
>> render one
>> of the examples at "200x150 -A" This setting is not readily available 
>> in the
>> preset rendering options drop down. Not only is this setting not 
>> available but
>> editing the file for the resolutions where none of the settings look 
>> anything
>> like what is already in the file.
>> This resolution is not readily available without going into parts of 
>> the program
>> that a newbie shouldn't go into until at least the beginning of the 
>> advanced
>> tutorials.
> 
> It sometimes take a fresh eye to spot such things. "Old timers" will 
> tend to skip over those parts without realising it.
> 
>> Well it's just my opinion having found similar situations in many 
>> tutorials
>> throughout the internet. The problem is one of a program coming out 
>> with a new
>> version (call it an updated version if you like) and the tutorials not 
>> being up
>> to date with the new version.
>> This situation has a tendency of confusing a person who is simply 
>> trying to
>> learn a program.
> 
> You are right. It was an old left over from way back. Possibly before 
> version 3.0.
> 
>>
>> Well anyway...I just wanted to drop in and say Hey. I am fairly 
>> excited about
>> learning this new (to me) program. It looks like just the software 
>> I've been
>> looking for to render some art projects I've had rattling around my 
>> brain pan
>> for a while.
>>
>> Well I guess that's enough for my first rant.
>> Hope you guys will help where the tutorials fall through as I've 
>> described
>> above.
>>
>> R'
>>
>>
> 
> Welcome to our comunity.
> 
> You can easily add your own resolutions. Just open "quickres.ini" in 
> notepad and add your new sections.
> The format is:

For non-antialiased:
[320x200, No AA] This can be about anything. This what will be displayed 
in the drop-down.
Width=320
Height=200
Antialias=Off

For antialiased:
[160x120, AA 0.3]
Width=160
Height=120
Antialias=On
Antialias_Threshold=0.3

A custom entry:
[My dual monitor, High quality]
Width=3200
Height=1200
Antialias=on
Antialias_Threshold=0.01

You can add "Antialias_Threshold=" even with "Antialias=Off", but it 
will be ignored.

Once you are finished, save the file and restart POV-Ray. Your new 
resolutions will be available.

Alain

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