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From: Jan Danielsson
Subject: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 9 Jan 2000 17:08:58
Message: <wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fo3q8s0.pminews@news.povray.org>
My father asked me to read a document about trojans and viruses to find any
possible errors in it. In it I found something I hadn't heard of before: Borg
Trojans.

"The Borg" is a race in the series StarTrek which work collectively. The Borg
Trojans spread around (since they are trojans I guess they are hidden in
other applications) and work collectively to flood internet servers and other
bad things.

Since I was quite impressed with the idea, I told a friend about it. He asked
me if I could write such a trojan for him. I was stunned and asked "What?,
Why?". "But make it render povray scenes instead. I want a PoV-Ray
renderfarm!"

[end true story]

So beware all Linux users... If you notice your system is heavily loaded, you
might be rendering my friends scenes. :-)


 /j


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From: omniVERSE
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 9 Jan 2000 19:14:19
Message: <3879245b@news.povray.org>
"Jan Danielsson" <Jan### [at] falunmailteliacom> wrote in message
news:wnaqnavryffbasnyhaznvygryvnpbz.fo3q8s0.pminews@news.povray.org...
>
> So beware all Linux users... If you notice your system is heavily loaded, you
> might be rendering my friends scenes. :-)

You sure he isn't using Windows...?

Bob


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:08:30
Message: <3879D9AB.C1CD9198@usit.net>
> "The Borg" is a race in the series StarTrek which work collectively. The Borg
> Trojans spread around (since they are trojans I guess they are hidden in
> other applications) and work collectively to flood internet servers and other
> bad things.
> 
> Since I was quite impressed with the idea, I told a friend about it. He asked
> me if I could write such a trojan for him. I was stunned and asked "What?,
> Why?". "But make it render povray scenes instead. I want a PoV-Ray
> renderfarm!"

Refer your friend to a book called "The Adolescence of P1". It was
published
in paperback several years back. It's old enough that the computers in
the
story were all IBM mainframes (so it's pretty dated), but the
protagonist
in the story does something of this sort to gain control of a group of
banking computers in Chicago and accidentally creates an artificial
intelligence that runs in basically every telecom-connected mainframe in
the
world (including banks, SAC, the DEW line, et cetera). This would be a
great
thing to have, I guess... just say "P1, please render my multi-megabyte
POV
file and let me know when it's done, that's a pal!". <grin>


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:24:33
Message: <3879DD95.DAEEAC42@gci.net>
P1 was never designed to gain control of banking computers,
it just could. P1 stands for "Priority 1". P1 could
de-compile, analyze, and re-compile for efficiency, the
programs that were running on the system. P1 rewrote itself.
And the story goes on from there.

Steve Martin wrote:
> 
> > "The Borg" is a race in the series StarTrek which work collectively. The Borg
> > Trojans spread around (since they are trojans I guess they are hidden in
> > other applications) and work collectively to flood internet servers and other
> > bad things.
> >
> > Since I was quite impressed with the idea, I told a friend about it. He asked
> > me if I could write such a trojan for him. I was stunned and asked "What?,
> > Why?". "But make it render povray scenes instead. I want a PoV-Ray
> > renderfarm!"
> 
> Refer your friend to a book called "The Adolescence of P1". It was
> published
> in paperback several years back. It's old enough that the computers in
> the
> story were all IBM mainframes (so it's pretty dated), but the
> protagonist
> in the story does something of this sort to gain control of a group of
> banking computers in Chicago and accidentally creates an artificial
> intelligence that runs in basically every telecom-connected mainframe in
> the
> world (including banks, SAC, the DEW line, et cetera). This would be a
> great
> thing to have, I guess... just say "P1, please render my multi-megabyte
> POV
> file and let me know when it's done, that's a pal!". <grin>

-- 
Mr. Art

"Often the appearance of reality is more important 
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000


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From: Nieminen Juha
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 10 Jan 2000 08:35:13
Message: <3879e011@news.povray.org>
Your computer will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

-- 
main(i,_){for(_?--i,main(i+2,"FhhQHFIJD|FQTITFN]zRFHhhTBFHhhTBFysdB"[i]
):5;i&&_>1;printf("%s",_-70?_&1?"[]":" ":(_=0,"\n")),_/=2);} /*- Warp -*/


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From: Steve Martin
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 10 Jan 2000 21:32:18
Message: <387A9611.F0630122@usit.net>
"mr.art" wrote:
> 
> P1 was never designed to gain control of banking computers,
> it just could. P1 stands for "Priority 1". P1 could
> de-compile, analyze, and re-compile for efficiency, the
> programs that were running on the system. P1 rewrote itself.
> And the story goes on from there.

Okay, I guess I'll give you that one. I remembered that Gregory
turned his project loose in a series of banking computers in
Chicago, I guess I short-circuited from there to the idea that
he wrote it to take over those computers specifically.


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From: ryan mooney
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 11 Jan 2000 00:42:42
Message: <38797371.958E6E4A@earthlink.net>
I wouldn't mind reading that paper if you could ... ???

Jan Danielsson wrote:

> My father asked me to read a document about trojans and viruses to find any
> possible errors in it. In it I found something I hadn't heard of before: Borg
> Trojans.
>
> "The Borg" is a race in the series StarTrek which work collectively. The Borg
> Trojans spread around (since they are trojans I guess they are hidden in
> other applications) and work collectively to flood internet servers and other
> bad things.
>
> Since I was quite impressed with the idea, I told a friend about it. He asked
> me if I could write such a trojan for him. I was stunned and asked "What?,
> Why?". "But make it render povray scenes instead. I want a PoV-Ray
> renderfarm!"
>
> [end true story]
>
> So beware all Linux users... If you notice your system is heavily loaded, you
> might be rendering my friends scenes. :-)
>
>  /j


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 11 Jan 2000 08:22:28
Message: <387A847E.4165A35B@bahnhof.se>
Another, slightly outdated book in the same sense is Mark Fabi's book
"Wyrm"

Starts in early 99 and goes on until the great end of the world
spectacle y2k. basically its the gigant virus that infects all computers
running the huge os MACROS 2k from the sloppy software manufacturer
*grin* well, it's sentinent, and.. woe, religious. plans it's own
suicide on y2k ... big bug for the world ;)

Actually, the book is really good, and this "review" is mostly a cynical
joke from my part :)

-- 
//Spider    --  [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
And the devil in black dress watches over
    My guardian angel walks away
Life is short and love is always over in the morning
    Black wind come carry me far away
            --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 11 Jan 2000 08:22:32
Message: <387A849E.BF4D1000@bahnhof.se>
Nieminen Juha wrote:
> 
>   Your computer will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.
> 
we are the pentium of Borg. Division is futile.

-- 
//Spider    --  [ spider@bahnhof.se ]-[ http://darkmere.wanfear.com/ ]
And the devil in black dress watches over
    My guardian angel walks away
Life is short and love is always over in the morning
    Black wind come carry me far away
            --"Sisters of Mercy" -- "Temple Of Love"


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From: mr art
Subject: Re: Joke (actually a true story)
Date: 11 Jan 2000 08:36:39
Message: <387B31F3.1A15EA37@gci.net>
Sorry to nitpick. AI is one of my favorite subjects. And this
story seems to be one of the better ones. For a similar type
story line, try "Wyrm" by Mark Fabi, 608 pages (May 1998)

This was copied from Amazon.com Reviews:
Wyrm
"The year is 1999. Michael Arcangelo's business is detecting and 
eliminating viruses, worms, and other computer-nasties from corporate 
files and operating systems. While attempting to cleanse a cutting-edge 
chess-playing program, he encounters a worm-- ``Wyrm''--that not only 
eats other viruses, but reconfigures other programs for greater speed 
and efficiency!"
...
"tries--not always successfully--to meld the latest speculations in 
artificial intelligence with computer games, Monty Python, mythology, 
Lewis Carroll, and whatnot. Grab those wizard privileges and beware 
of hostile frobnules."

Great stuff. Lots of fun and some neat programming ideas.
Steve Martin wrote:
> 
> "mr.art" wrote:
> >
> > P1 was never designed to gain control of banking computers,
> > it just could. P1 stands for "Priority 1". P1 could
> > de-compile, analyze, and re-compile for efficiency, the
> > programs that were running on the system. P1 rewrote itself.
> > And the story goes on from there.
> 
> Okay, I guess I'll give you that one. I remembered that Gregory
> turned his project loose in a series of banking computers in
> Chicago, I guess I short-circuited from there to the idea that
> he wrote it to take over those computers specifically.

-- 
Mr. Art

"Often the appearance of reality is more important 
than the reality of the appearance."
Bill DeWitt 2000


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