On 30/08/2013 6:01 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> BTW: I don't think that anyone want's to slay you, James. What has a fish
> (mackarel) to do with that?

Have you ever eaten mackerel that has gone off?

Seriously Michael, it is just a saying or the combination of two 
sayings. And it means that Jim is showing his age. "Palm smack" may be 
near the meaning.
The off line docs have problems but the online one is kept up to date by 
Jim, very well.

You are right about the different needs of the user base. People like me 
who cannot speak computer, need a primer in coding. Whilst to some, it 
is just a reference doc. You can't really have them both with a mid 
level user's needs, in the one document. I would say.

-- 
Regards
     Stephen

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On 30-8-2013 18:05, Le_Forgeron wrote:
> James, You deserve a pat on the back.
>

And a medal :-)

Thomas

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James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
> On 08/29/2013 11:38 PM, posfan12 wrote:
> > Could someone please post an example of a #for loop? There is none in the docs.
> > (Which should be fixed, too.)
>
> yikes ... i don't think the syntax diagram could be /any/ clearer
> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Conditional_Directives#The_for_Directive

The docs weren't clear if one had to add #local or #declare before the
identifier, and I was confused regarding the End parameter - since most
programming languages use an inequality (as does POVray's #while statement).

Thanks for updating the wiki. One additional suggestion I'd make is to also
state what the example code is supposed to /produce/. I.e. a series of spheres
arranged evenly around a circle.


Mike

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On 08/31/2013 05:28 AM, posfan12 wrote:
> James Holsenback <nom### [at] nonecom> wrote:
>> On 08/29/2013 11:38 PM, posfan12 wrote:
>>> Could someone please post an example of a #for loop? There is none in the docs.
>>> (Which should be fixed, too.)
>>
>> yikes ... i don't think the syntax diagram could be /any/ clearer
>> http://wiki.povray.org/content/Reference:Conditional_Directives#The_for_Directive
>
> The docs weren't clear if one had to add #local or #declare before the
> identifier, and I was confused regarding the End parameter - since most
> programming languages use an inequality (as does POVray's #while statement).
>
> Thanks for updating the wiki. One additional suggestion I'd make is to also
> state what the example code is supposed to /produce/. I.e. a series of spheres
> arranged evenly around a circle.

ah ... well I'm going to decline to do that ... need to cut off changes 
to docs because we're trying to do a release

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Stephen <mca### [at] aolcom> wrote:
> On 30/08/2013 6:01 PM, MichaelJF wrote:
> > BTW: I don't think that anyone want's to slay you, James. What has a fish
> > (mackarel) to do with that?
>
> Have you ever eaten mackerel that has gone off?
>
> Seriously Michael, it is just a saying or the combination of two
> sayings. And it means that Jim is showing his age. "Palm smack" may be
> near the meaning.
> The off line docs have problems but the online one is kept up to date by
> Jim, very well.
>
> You are right about the different needs of the user base. People like me
> who cannot speak computer, need a primer in coding. Whilst to some, it
> is just a reference doc. You can't really have them both with a mid
> level user's needs, in the one document. I would say.
>
> --
> Regards
>      Stephen

I cannot remember to have ever eaten a mackerel at all. Clupea, atlantic cod,
plaice, eel, salmon and a very small part of a pike - the bigger part was
fetched from my plate by my late tomcat Arthur. I could not stop looking at him
feasting about it...

I guessed that Jim used "sayings" but expecially these are hard to translate. I
was happy to find a translation of his word "Yikes" at leo.org. Idioms or
sayings are not listed at Translation sites usually. leo becomes better and
better but not all can be found there.

And yes, I second that Jim does a wonderful job at the POV Wiki and earns a tap,
a medal and a hug for this,

Best regards,
Michael

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