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From: William Tracy
Subject: Re: 64 or 32.. what to do, what to do?
Date: 27 Mar 2008 13:21:46
Message: <47ebe5ba@news.povray.org>
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> I can
> later, if I choose, have the system converted to a dual boot system with the
> option of starting in 32 or 64 for approximately an additional $200.00 USD.
Let me throw out another idea for you to consider: Make the 64-bit OS Linux.
You've already stated that Povray is the only real reason for the 64-bit
OS, and Povray is quite happy on Linux. 64-bit Linux has also been
around a bit longer than 64-bit Windows, and has had a chance to mature
a bit. ;-)
That said, I'm a Linux fanboy (I'm pounding this out under 32-bit Linux)
and I haven't had the money to shell out for a 64-bit processor, so I
can't tell you whether or not the performance difference is worthwhile.
--
William Tracy
afi### [at] gmail com -- wtr### [at] calpoly edu
Stacey's dad!
Took it pretty bad.
I'm afraid of Stacey's dad.
...
Stacey can't you see?
I really need to flee.
I'm afraid of Stacey's dad.
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William Tracy <wtr### [at] calpoly edu> wrote:
> Mike the Elder wrote:
> > I can
> > later, if I choose, have the system converted to a dual boot system with the
> > option of starting in 32 or 64 for approximately an additional $200.00 USD.
>
> Let me throw out another idea for you to consider: Make the 64-bit OS Linux.
Actually, I like the idea. I've wanted to learn more about Linux for a while
now.
Can the Linux 64 and XP-Pro 32 live happily on the same machine? (I can't afford
a second machine right now.) ... a second partition? ... a second hard drive?
(As much as I would be "proud to be Micro$oft free", I'm in the middle of too
many Windows based projects to do a cold turkey switch.)
Thanks,
Mike C.
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Mike the Elder wrote:
> William Tracy <wtr### [at] calpoly edu> wrote:
>> Mike the Elder wrote:
>> > I can
>> > later, if I choose, have the system converted to a dual boot system
>> > with the option of starting in 32 or 64 for approximately an additional
>> > $200.00 USD.
>>
>> Let me throw out another idea for you to consider: Make the 64-bit OS
>> Linux.
>
> Actually, I like the idea. I've wanted to learn more about Linux for a
> while now.
> Can the Linux 64 and XP-Pro 32 live happily on the same machine? (I can't
> afford a second machine right now.) ... a second partition? ... a second
> hard drive?
You can do either, Linux is happy living on a second partition or second
hardrive. And once you install Linux it will create the boot menu for you
so at boot you can select which way you want to go.
I'm running 64bit Suse Linux for quite some time now on an AMD DX2 and
haven't had any trouble with it other then me messing it up with test
stuff.
Povray on 64bit gives some speed increase but don't expect wonders. What it
does do however is give you limitless memory. I have run renders upto 20GB
memory use.
>
> (As much as I would be "proud to be Micro$oft free", I'm in the middle of
> too many Windows based projects to do a cold turkey switch.)
>
> Thanks,
> Mike C.
For the "MS free" bit you could check out Wine, which is a Windows emulator
on Linux. Works pretty well but does not replace Windows completely.
--
Ger
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:21:45 -0700, William Tracy wrote:
> Let me throw out another idea for you to consider: Make the 64-bit OS
> Linux.
I'd second that. Use 64-bit Linux for rendering, and if you have to have
Windows, then install 32-bit Windows.
Jim
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On Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:40:31 -0500, Mike the Elder wrote:
> Can the Linux 64 and XP-Pro 32 live happily on the same machine? (I
> can't afford a second machine right now.) ... a second partition? ... a
> second hard drive?
You bet, any of these options.
I have 32-bit Vista (barf) and 64-bit OpenSUSE installed on the same
machine. They coexist just fine.
Jim
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Ger <No.### [at] thank you> wrote:
> Povray on 64bit gives some speed increase but don't expect wonders. What it
> does do however is give you limitless memory. I have run renders upto 20GB
> memory use.
Also file sizes become unlimited.
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- Warp
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: 64 or 32.. what to do, what to do?
Date: 27 Mar 2008 14:18:53
Message: <47ebf31d@news.povray.org>
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> Actually, I like the idea. I've wanted to learn more about Linux for a while
> now.
I can recommend that: learning is always a Good Thing.
> Can the Linux 64 and XP-Pro 32 live happily on the same machine? (I can't afford
> a second machine right now.) ... a second partition? ... a second hard drive?
AFAIK, there is no reason to think that they will interfere with each
other. Indeed a second hard drive could be easier to manage at install time
than partitions. The only problem I could think about is sharing files
between XP and Linux: I didn't check recently, but I remember the NTFS
support on Linux was read-only when I tried some years ago.
> (As much as I would be "proud to be Micro$oft free", I'm in the middle of too
> many Windows based projects to do a cold turkey switch.)
That's understandable... back on the early 90's I had dual boot for some
years until I decided to format the W98 partition.
Good luck with it in any case... and my condolences for the deceased
machine.
--
Jaime
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> For the "MS free" bit you could check out Wine, which is a Windows emulator
> on Linux.
WINE acronym stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator.
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Many thanks to all.
My next investment is going to be a second hard drive from which to boot 64 bit
Linux.
Best Regards,
Mike C.
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Warp escribió:
> Ger <No.### [at] thank you> wrote:
>> Povray on 64bit gives some speed increase but don't expect wonders. What it
>> does do however is give you limitless memory. I have run renders upto 20GB
>> memory use.
>
> Also file sizes become unlimited.
>
You can't use >4GB files in 32-bit systems?
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