Well...
Just a question: in scc4 author names - except for the winners one - weren't
available. Will be the same in scc5?
;-)
Paolo

>"Paul Bourke" <pau### [at] uwaeduau> wrote:
> OK, it seems round 5 of the short competition is going to happen.
> The details may still be tweeked up to the end of November but here is an
> initial web page
>    http://local.wasp.uwa.edu.au/~pbourke/modelling_rendering/scc5/
> Please forward any comments, complaints, suggestions either through this
forum
> or directly by email to myself.
> In particular:
> 1. Is 512 bytes too much? How about 384 (256+512)/2
> 2. Is the end of January too long a competition period?
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> Just a question: in scc4 author names - except for the winners one - weren't
> available. Will be the same in scc5?

That is really up to the individual. Some people would rather keep the
anonymity.

If you would like to "own" the image with your name then I'm more than happy to
include it. You can obviously have personal information in the comments file.

And retrospectively, if anyone would like their names added to their previous
round entries, just let me know by email.

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hi hi
thought of adding a page to help new user like me?

just came across these site

http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/clockmod.html
The Clock Modifier include file lets you use POV-Ray's clock

variable to animate scenes in complex ways, without having to do any

of the maths yourself! Features of the file include:

http://www.ecommerce-retail.com/cm/06.html
Animating Color_Maps and Pigment_Maps

http://www.f-lohmueller.de/pov_tut/animate/pov_anie.htm
Animations with POV-Ray

http://povray.tirnalong.com/ow.asp?SpeedGuide

www.theprodukkt.com/


phew... I love procedural graphic

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> hi hi
> thought of adding a page to help new user like me?
> 
> just came across these site
> 
> http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/clockmod.html
> The Clock Modifier include file lets you use POV-Ray's clock
> 
> variable to animate scenes in complex ways, without having to do any
> 
> of the maths yourself!

But you can't use it for the contest. The include file alone is 7KB.

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I have an idea that may or may not be useful.  Perhaps instead of Quicktime
movies, you might consider flash animation.  I've been playing around with
png2swf and some advantages seem to be that it encodes really fast, the
animation is lossless, and its well supported on most peoples' browsers.  I did
a test of 100 400x300 png images generated by POV-Ray, and the resultant swf
file was about 118k, so I don't think size would be a big problem.  Encoding
that file took about 2 seconds.

Just a thought.

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> I have an idea that may or may not be useful.  Perhaps instead of Quicktime
> movies, you might consider flash animation.  I've been playing around with
> png2swf and some advantages seem to be that it encodes really fast, the
> animation is lossless, and its well supported on most peoples' browsers.  I did
> a test of 100 400x300 png images generated by POV-Ray, and the resultant swf
> file was about 118k, so I don't think size would be a big problem.  Encoding
> that file took about 2 seconds.
> 
> Just a thought.

No, both QuickTime and Flash are proprietary and crap. Having Flash 
seems like a good idea, as an *extra* apart from a standard format like 
MPEG2 or MPEG4.
Or Ogg/Theora if you want to go the open-but-not-quite-supported route.

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"Paul Bourke" <pau### [at] uwaeduau> wrote:
> OK, it seems round 5 of the short competition is going to happen.
....
> Please forward any comments, complaints, suggestions either through this forum
> or directly by email to myself.
....
First, thanks for hosting the short code competitions, they're among my
favorites.

Second, I realize that this is a fairly large request, but I believe that it
would  go a long way toward enhancing the event: Is it possible to make
provisions for entrants/judges to submit comments along with the numerical
scores?  IMHO, feedback from fellow artists is one of the major benefits of
participating in competitions.

Best Regards,
Mike C.

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Nicolas Alvarez <nic### [at] gmailisthebestcom> wrote:

> > hi hi
> > thought of adding a page to help new user like me?
> >
> > just came across these site
> >
> > http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/clockmod.html
> > The Clock Modifier include file lets you use POV-Ray's clock
> >
> > variable to animate scenes in complex ways, without having to do any
> >
> > of the maths yourself!
>
> But you can't use it for the contest. The include file alone is 7KB.

try looking at clockmod.inc, might give you some idea on playing with clocks
// CALCULATE MODIFIED CLOCK VALUE
// ******************************

haha, you are right, you cant include it, but I bet you can get some ideas from
it. 8)

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> No, both QuickTime and Flash are proprietary and crap.

Well I suggest saying QT is crap is a bit harsh.

> Having Flash  seems like a good idea, as an *extra* apart from a standard format
like
> MPEG2 or MPEG4.

I will look at MPEG4 closer to the time, but I am very aware of the artefacts it
can introduce to clean CG content ... never designed for that. Whereas with QT I
know I can choose a codec that doesn't introduce artefacts. Sure I know there is
an issue with Linux, and I knew the movie format was going to be an issue when I
proposed this.

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> First, thanks for hosting the short code competitions, they're among my favorites.

Thanks.

> Second, I realize that this is a fairly large request, but I believe that it
> would  go a long way toward enhancing the event: Is it possible to make
> provisions for entrants/judges to submit comments along with the numerical
> scores?  IMHO, feedback from fellow artists is one of the major benefits of
> participating in competitions.

I am in favour of that, moderated perhaps but yes a good idea.

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