John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:

> I am very interested in knowing what software you're using to put sound
> into your animations.

The sound sources or the mixing?

Source comes from a variety of places:

1) AKG 414 condensor mic into a Mackie 120 VLZ board recording whatever
weird noise around the house.

2) All musical instruments were played or programmed by me.

3) Synthetic sounds were generated with SuperCollider, a Mac program that
acts like Csound on steroids.  The language is object-oriented and the
syntax is similar to Smalltalk.  Dense, but with enough experimentation it
can make some killer classic analog synth sounds (or just plain strange
sounds).

As far as mixing goes, for "Break Time" I used Opcode's Vision DSP digital
recording software to mix, add reverb, DDLs, etc.  Opcode no longer exists,
and Vision won't run on OS X, so I've gone to Audacity, which is a nice
open-source, multiplatform recorder and mixer, and is good for recording
audio.  Still, I'm finding myself drawn to mixing with Csound, if you can
believe it.  Within the last couple of weeks I've worked on a master editor
POV script -- inspired by you, John -- that will let me mix various video
scenes with transitions and drop Csound audio events where they need to go.
 I have another set of scripts I'm using to do the final audio -- again, POV
driving and creating Csound score files.  Not the most efficient or
intuitive way to mix audio, but I can bring scripts and WAV files to work
and mix over lunch or breaks, when my brain is actually fully functional as
opposed to, say, right now when it's been gooified by a full day's work and
the resident 9-year-old :)  It also gives me an excuse to wear headphones
when the guy in the cubicle next to me is clearing his lungs of fluids
(which he does constantly -- nasty!)

Dan

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Dan Byers wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I am very interested in knowing what software you're using to put sound
>>into your animations.
> 
> 
> The sound sources or the mixing?
> 
> Source comes from a variety of places:
> 
> 1) AKG 414 condensor mic into a Mackie 120 VLZ board recording whatever
> weird noise around the house.
> 
> 2) All musical instruments were played or programmed by me.
> 
> 3) Synthetic sounds were generated with SuperCollider, a Mac program that
> acts like Csound on steroids.  The language is object-oriented and the
> syntax is similar to Smalltalk.  Dense, but with enough experimentation it
> can make some killer classic analog synth sounds (or just plain strange
> sounds).
> 
> As far as mixing goes, for "Break Time" I used Opcode's Vision DSP digital
> recording software to mix, add reverb, DDLs, etc.  Opcode no longer exists,
> and Vision won't run on OS X, so I've gone to Audacity, which is a nice
> open-source, multiplatform recorder and mixer, and is good for recording
> audio.  Still, I'm finding myself drawn to mixing with Csound, if you can
> believe it.

Which of these utilites actually puts the sound into the video file? 
That's what I'm after.  'Course, you're on a Mac box, so your answer may 
not be helpful to me (XP user, maybe going to Linux sometime later this 
year).

> Within the last couple of weeks I've worked on a master editor
> POV script -- inspired by you, John -- that will let me mix various video
> scenes with transitions and drop Csound audio events where they need to go.

How exactly did I inspire this?  My anims are silent--I should change my 
name to Charlie Chaplin.

>  I have another set of scripts I'm using to do the final audio -- again, POV
> driving and creating Csound score files.  Not the most efficient or
> intuitive way to mix audio, but I can bring scripts and WAV files to work
> and mix over lunch or breaks, when my brain is actually fully functional as
> opposed to, say, right now when it's been gooified by a full day's work and
> the resident 9-year-old :)  It also gives me an excuse to wear headphones
> when the guy in the cubicle next to me is clearing his lungs of fluids
> (which he does constantly -- nasty!)

I had a roommate who smoked a lot, was deaf in one ear, and snored.  The 
sound of the smoking-induced mucus bubbling through his breathing 
passages was not pleasant.

Regards,
John

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John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
>
> Which of these utilites actually puts the sound into the video file?
> That's what I'm after.  'Course, you're on a Mac box, so your answer may
> not be helpful to me (XP user, maybe going to Linux sometime later this
> year).
>

I'm actually on XP with my laptop, and I've been using VirtualDub to put the
images together and the WAV file of my choice into an AVI.  Unlike
Quicktime, which I used to use, Virtual Dub will play the WAV file from the
beginning of the video clip.

> How exactly did I inspire this?  My anims are silent--I should change my
> name to Charlie Chaplin.

A few weeks ago I asked about how you did your transitions/wipes/etc and you
explained to me the way to take your various clips and render them as
image_maps on disks to put them in their master sequence with wipes, fades,
blah blah blah.  At least I THINK you did.  If you didn't, then I'm a
genius.  If you did, then YOU'RE a genius and I'm merely a copycat.  Either
one works for me...

Dan

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Dan Byers wrote:
> John VanSickle <evi### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> 
>>Which of these utilites actually puts the sound into the video file?
>>That's what I'm after.  'Course, you're on a Mac box, so your answer may
>>not be helpful to me (XP user, maybe going to Linux sometime later this
>>year).
> 
> I'm actually on XP with my laptop, and I've been using VirtualDub to put the
> images together and the WAV file of my choice into an AVI.  Unlike
> Quicktime, which I used to use, Virtual Dub will play the WAV file from the
> beginning of the video clip.

Okay, VirtualDub.  I'll look into that.

>>How exactly did I inspire this?  My anims are silent--I should change my
>>name to Charlie Chaplin.
> 
> A few weeks ago I asked about how you did your transitions/wipes/etc and you
> explained to me the way to take your various clips and render them as
> image_maps on disks to put them in their master sequence with wipes, fades,
> blah blah blah.  At least I THINK you did.

Yeah, I did.

 > If you didn't, then I'm a
> genius.  If you did, then YOU'RE a genius and I'm merely a copycat.

I wouldn't say that it was all that clever an idea.

Regards,
John

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