> No. We covered this pretty well in *.off-topic...the actual size of pixels
> varies widely, measuring things in pixels only ensures it will either be
too
> large or too small when people use a screen with a different size or
> resolution. An actual size unit is always better for measuring size. You
> should *never* use pixels to measure size.


Well, the argument for using pixels is that everything *else* on a web page
is measured with them. Images are an exact width and height measured in
pixels. I understand that as monitors get higher and higher resolutions,
this will make things shrink. However, until we get to the point where a
pixel is *significantly* smaller than, say, a point - where pixels are so
tiny that their size is negligable - things will continue to be based around
pixels since the difference really isn't that extreme. If pixels on my
monitor are smaller than pixels on your monitor, nearly everything looks
smaller to me, and I'm used to it.

So, in this pixel based environment, specifying font sizes in pixels does
make sense. (Certainly more sense than specifying them in points, since OS's
can't agree on how many pixels are in a point.) That's the argument for
using pixels. (More at http://www.alistapart.com/stories/fear4/ .) My
argument, however, is that pixels shouldn't be used since they create
accessibility problems. (More at
http://diveintoaccessibility.org/day_26_using_relative_font_sizes.html .)

 - Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

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On Sun, 3 Nov 2002 21:39:11 -0500, "Christopher James Huff"
<cja### [at] earthlinknet> wrote:

>No. We covered this pretty well in *.off-topic...the actual size of pixels
>varies widely, measuring things in pixels only ensures it will either be too
>large or too small when people use a screen with a different size or
>resolution. An actual size unit is always better for measuring size. You
>should *never* use pixels to measure size.

While this is true, most people settle at a resolution where the pixel
size is comfortable to them. I can run my 15" monitor at home in
1600x1200 but I don't, because then it's impossible to use my computer
anymore (ever tried to click a 3x3 mm PhotoShop palette icon?) Also,
everything else uses pixels, so if you don't want your icon label to
be 6 times the size of your icon, you should also stick to pixel sizes
for fonts, too.


Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
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In article <3dc54c3a@news.povray.org> , "Slime" <slm### [at] slimelandcom> wrote:

> Well, they should. IE/Win doesn't. Until it does, I believe it's the
> designer's job to make sure their users are able to read the content, and
> that means making sure font sizes are resizeable. It's a flaw in the
> browser, and one that us designers are responsible for making up for.

The current font settings work well in IE on Window provided the user did
not manually change the IE or system settings to completely unreasonable
values.  Frequently this happens when users attempt to view sites with too
big or too small fonts and then they forget to switch back to a normal
magnification.

    Thorsten


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In article <web.3dc48fc94b452a862a1c8f120@news.povray.org>, 
rmo### [at] coxnet says...
> Slime wrote:
> >> couldnt decide if this was best posted in P.general or P.O.T.   oops :)
> >This is fine =)
> >> tried mozilla. it crashes on my machine. :(
> >
> >That's strange. Are you sure it wasn't a beta version or something?
> >
> > - Slime
> 
> it may have been. I'm not sure. my Wife found it . when she tried it and it
> crashed  she took it off the system.
> 
> my machine is pretty strange.  AMDK6-2 400mhz on an asus MB with 256mb ram.
> 
> need a faster one for pov'ing  maybe someday. :)
> 
> BTW I Like Slime-POV and i think you're website is pretty cool:)
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
Try Opera. It gives you an option to zoom in on the entire page by just 
about any amount you want. Not sure about just the text though..

One thing I do wish is that someone would implement one of the newer 
image sizing algorithms, instead of relying on the common 'lets make this 
pixel bigger' ones. From what I have seen, a few of them can resize an 
image quickly to much larger sizes and not have it be just a mess of 
squares. Sigh...

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> Try Opera.

Ack! Don't try Opera for *anything* until it comes out with better DOM
support! (expected in version 7, so it shouldn't be too long.)

Of course, by "better DOM support" i mean "any DOM support at all".

 - Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]

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