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From: Patrick Joyal
Subject: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 11:40:30
Message: <39be4e6e@news.povray.org>
Hi,

Does anyone knows if there is any include file
out there used to melt object?  If not, I'll try to do one.
Just wanted to know before I work for nothing.

Have a nice day.

Patrick


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 record of her favorite blues"  - S.T.


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 14:16:07
Message: <39BE72F4.C8876347@spiritone.com>
I haven't heard of one. I suppose Chris Colefaxes Object Exploder could
be altered to use blobs and then you might be able to get a melting
effect.

It's a pretty tall order, but go for it and let us know how it works
out...

Josh

(not able to visualize code for that is a little strange.)

Patrick Joyal wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone knows if there is any include file
> out there used to melt object?  If not, I'll try to do one.
> Just wanted to know before I work for nothing.
>
> Have a nice day.
>
> Patrick
>
> --
>
> "She just love my big 10 inch
>  record of her favorite blues"  - S.T.

--
Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
eng### [at] spiritonecom
The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/


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From: Patrick Joyal
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 14:50:26
Message: <39be7af2@news.povray.org>
I had the same idea of starting with the Object Exploder, so I'm not
as stupid as I thought, or are we both stupid ?... :)


Josh English wrote in message <39BE72F4.C8876347@spiritone.com>...
>I haven't heard of one. I suppose Chris Colefaxes Object Exploder could
>be altered to use blobs and then you might be able to get a melting
>effect.
>
>It's a pretty tall order, but go for it and let us know how it works
>out...
>
>Josh
>
>(not able to visualize code for that is a little strange.)
>
>Patrick Joyal wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Does anyone knows if there is any include file
>> out there used to melt object?  If not, I'll try to do one.
>> Just wanted to know before I work for nothing.
>>
>> Have a nice day.
>>
>> Patrick
>>
>> --
>>
>> "She just love my big 10 inch
>>  record of her favorite blues"  - S.T.
>
>--
>Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
>eng### [at] spiritonecom
>The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/
>
>


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 16:19:35
Message: <39BE8FB1.28655AD7@spiritone.com>
Considering how well I answer some of these questions, I may want to plead
the fifth, but to get accurate melting, you might want to start with that.
If you can get object exploder to make something crumble, then you're
halfway there. The challenge is understanding the code of the include files,
which I've never figured out. Chris has a much stronger sense of programming
than I do, and I can't quite follow the code.

Another thought is to take somthing like Hugo Elias' gel work and deform a
mesh. That might allow for a candle (basically a cylinder) to "melt" into a
puddle.

Josh

Patrick Joyal wrote:

> I had the same idea of starting with the Object Exploder, so I'm not
> as stupid as I thought, or are we both stupid ?... :)
>
> Josh English wrote in message <39BE72F4.C8876347@spiritone.com>...
> >I haven't heard of one. I suppose Chris Colefaxes Object Exploder could
> >be altered to use blobs and then you might be able to get a melting
> >effect.
> >
> >It's a pretty tall order, but go for it and let us know how it works
> >out...
> >
> >Josh
> >
> >(not able to visualize code for that is a little strange.)
> >
> >Patrick Joyal wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Does anyone knows if there is any include file
> >> out there used to melt object?  If not, I'll try to do one.
> >> Just wanted to know before I work for nothing.
> >>
> >> Have a nice day.
> >>
> >> Patrick
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> "She just love my big 10 inch
> >>  record of her favorite blues"  - S.T.
> >
> >--
> >Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
> >eng### [at] spiritonecom
> >The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/
> >
> >

--
Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
eng### [at] spiritonecom
The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/


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From: Patrick Joyal
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 16:42:33
Message: <39be9539@news.povray.org>
>Another thought is to take somthing like Hugo Elias' gel work and deform a


is this available somewhere on the web?


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From: Chris Huff
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 17:24:16
Message: <chrishuff-D460ED.16260912092000@news.povray.org>
In article <39be9539@news.povray.org>, "Patrick Joyal" 
<pat### [at] cantel-camscom> wrote:

> is this available somewhere on the web?

Lets see if I can beat Ken...
http://freespace.virgin.net/hugo.elias/

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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 12 Sep 2000 20:43:48
Message: <39becdc4@news.povray.org>
"Patrick Joyal" <pat### [at] cantel-camscom> wrote in message
news:39be4e6e@news.povray.org...
|
| Does anyone knows if there is any include file
| out there used to melt object?  If not, I'll try to do one.
| Just wanted to know before I work for nothing.

Tried to use blobs by inverse differencing the (melting) object from them
and it kind of works.  Just doesn't actually puddle or drip or anything.
Shrink the blobs in size or number over time.

Bob


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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 14 Sep 2000 19:35:36
Message: <39c160c8@news.povray.org>
Patrick Joyal <pat### [at] cantel-camscom> wrote:
> I had the same idea of starting with the Object Exploder, so I'm not
> as stupid as I thought, or are we both stupid ?... :)

This was an idea suggested to me quite some time ago, which I always had to
put off as not particularly feasible under POV 3.0/3.1.  Blobs would
certainly seem to be part of the solution, and if your object is constructed
of blobs it shouldn't be too difficult to adjust the components' sizes and
positions to give the appearance of melting.

What does strike me as difficult is melting an arbitrary (probably CSG)
object.  You need to be able to split the object into parts, that will
nevertheless interact in a semi-liquid fashion.  Some of the custom patches
offer possibilities, e.g. isoblobs (although these won't be in 3.5), or a
combination of object patterns and eval_pattern.

Personally, I do still want to try my hand at all the projects listed on my
site (http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/projects.html), once the features
and syntaxes in 3.5 are definite, e.g. Physics Simulation, a script based
Particle System, Pyrotechnic Effects, etc.


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From: Patrick Joyal
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 15 Sep 2000 09:30:40
Message: <39c22480@news.povray.org>
I'll try something when I'll have a couple of hours free.  Meanwhile, Chris,
do I have your permission to use your include to start a new one?

thanks

Patrick

Chris Colefax wrote in message <39c160c8@news.povray.org>...
>Patrick Joyal <pat### [at] cantel-camscom> wrote:
>> I had the same idea of starting with the Object Exploder, so I'm not
>> as stupid as I thought, or are we both stupid ?... :)
>
>This was an idea suggested to me quite some time ago, which I always had to
>put off as not particularly feasible under POV 3.0/3.1.  Blobs would
>certainly seem to be part of the solution, and if your object is
constructed
>of blobs it shouldn't be too difficult to adjust the components' sizes and
>positions to give the appearance of melting.
>
>What does strike me as difficult is melting an arbitrary (probably CSG)
>object.  You need to be able to split the object into parts, that will
>nevertheless interact in a semi-liquid fashion.  Some of the custom patches
>offer possibilities, e.g. isoblobs (although these won't be in 3.5), or a
>combination of object patterns and eval_pattern.
>
>Personally, I do still want to try my hand at all the projects listed on my
>site (http://www.geocities.com/ccolefax/projects.html), once the features
>and syntaxes in 3.5 are definite, e.g. Physics Simulation, a script based
>Particle System, Pyrotechnic Effects, etc.
>
>


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From: Chris Colefax
Subject: Re: Melting an object.
Date: 15 Sep 2000 22:44:08
Message: <39c2de78@news.povray.org>
Patrick Joyal <pat### [at] cantel-camscom> wrote:
> I'll try something when I'll have a couple of hours free.  Meanwhile,
Chris,
> do I have your permission to use your include to start a new one?

Of course, feel free to find whatever inspiration/usefulness you can in my
code - all my include file projects are (by necessity, at the very least)
open source, so I can only wish you the best of luck in deciphering it (I
know I have enough trouble myself, coming back to a file months or even
years after I created it...!).


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