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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 18 Dec 2003 10:16:21
Message: <3fe1c4c5@news.povray.org>


> I think the big difference with time-tables is just that in the business
> world, delaying the release can cost a company dearly.

In the case of Poser 5, it was even worse than that. From what I gathered,
they were desperate for cash, if only to keep the employees on the payroll,
so the product was rushed out the door. Since then, they've been through
reorganisation and I just received an announcement about them having a new
parent company for a new one, the 4th in 7 years : after Fractal Design,
Metacreations and Egisys it's now E-frontier, a Japanese company that makes
a famous (in Japan)3D app called Shade.

G.



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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 06:57:23
Message: <gsp5uvk1j7sjrodm83b7gurfujbh6gf635@4ax.com>
It is the difference between Love and Money, I think. If Pov-Ray were to go
commercial (heaven forbid) I don't think it would survive in its present
excellence. 

BTW I tried Poser 5 and was under whelmed I will stick to Poser 4 until I can
afford a Cray.

Regards
        Stephen


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From: GreyBeard
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 09:45:53
Message: <3fe30f21$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen McAvoy" <mcavoys[at]AOLdotCOM> wrote in message
news:gsp5uvk1j7sjrodm83b7gurfujbh6gf635@4ax.com...
> It is the difference between Love and Money, I think. If Pov-Ray were to
go
> commercial (heaven forbid) I don't think it would survive in its present
> excellence.

Yes, Heaven forbid!  It's nice knowing when something doesn't work, the
problem came from me.  That I can fix.
>
> BTW I tried Poser 5 and was under whelmed I will stick to Poser 4 until I
can
> afford a Cray.
>
Not sure that would be fast enough for P5.  Will a Cray even (Crash!!)  do
(BSD) windoze?

Greybeard ;^))


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 13:21:00
Message: <c7g6uv0njh83r04p3s2kmjas142ksfs4e5@4ax.com>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:45:56 -0600, "GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote:

>Yes, Heaven forbid!  It's nice knowing when something doesn't work, the
>problem came from me.  That I can fix.

Another thing, I don't think a commercial programme could provide the level of
support we get with Pov-Ray. More power to our collective elbows :-}

Regards
        Stephen


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From: GreyBeard
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 14:20:38
Message: <3fe34f86@news.povray.org>
"Stephen McAvoy" <mcavoys[at]AOLdotCOM> wrote in message
news:c7g6uv0njh83r04p3s2kmjas142ksfs4e5@4ax.com...

> Another thing, I don't think a commercial programme could provide the
level of
> support we get with Pov-Ray. More power to our collective elbows :-}
>
Yes, Yes, and absolutely Yes!  Being a mathematic dummy, and I mean almost
no math, I lean pretty heavily on what others have posted and otherwise made
available.  What I have downloaded from the web, and from these groups would
have cost thousands of dollars for any other program.  The list of people I
would have to thank is longer than I would be allowed to post in a
non-binary group.

Greybeard


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 14:33:35
Message: <eik6uvcbf24rk7vrlvc8dv5n1gn341u63l@4ax.com>
On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:20:42 -0600, "GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote:

>What I have downloaded from the web, and from these groups would
>have cost thousands of dollars for any other program.  The list of people I
>would have to thank is longer than I would be allowed to post in a
>non-binary group.

Goes for me too. And if I had a beard it would be grey also :-}

Regards
        Stephen


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 23:06:56
Message: <cjameshuff-7D46EB.23065619122003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3fdee556$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote:

> > Is simple curiosity. Because PovRay 3.5 have a date of 2002 and i dont know
> > if the "project" stay alive, or 3.5 was the last pov.
> 
> Didn't someone do a faq for this?

Back in 2000. :-/
It hasn't been updated since, but is still mostly valid:
http://news.povray.org/povray.announce.frequently-asked-questions/16712/


> Pov 4 will be a major rewrite of Pov (one of the main reasons for this is to
> allow, iirc, the code to be brought under one of the GPL licences, which is
> impossible with the current code).

Not necessarily the GPL. Quoting from that status report:

> First, we have been discussing using a new license for 4.  Various
> open-source licenses are under consideration.  We might instead use an
> updated version of POVLEGAL.  No conclusions have been reached so far, but
> the topic is under discussion within the POV-Team. 


> There will be an update to 3.5 soon (iirc) - a bugfix release.

Yes.

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From: GreyBeard
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 19 Dec 2003 23:57:05
Message: <3fe3d6a1@news.povray.org>
"Gilles Tran" <tra### [at] inapginrafr> wrote in message

> In the case of Poser 5, it was even worse than that. From what I gathered,
> they were desperate for cash, if only to keep the employees on the
payroll,
> so the product was rushed out the door. Since then, they've been through
> reorganisation and I just received an announcement about them having a new
> parent company for a new one, the 4th in 7 years : after Fractal Design,
> Metacreations and Egisys it's now E-frontier, a Japanese company that
makes
> a famous (in Japan)3D app called Shade.
>
CHeck the poser group on Renderosity, Curious labs has seen fit to post a
bit there through one of their people.  Not horribly informative, and
there's been a thread the last day or so, SR-4 (Yet another box of bandaids)
is coming out in the first part of next year.  I'm not holding my breath
waiting.

Had to laugh though, I posted a Povray pic there, got comments, very
favorable on the shapes, (primitives, nothing else) and textures (From
stones.inc)  lighting, (one area light).  Had Blobgirl giving a salute.  No
more comments after I revealed it as not a poser picture.  Reference to your
site, however.  Nice stuff Giles.

Greybeard.


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From: GreyBeard
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 20 Dec 2003 20:29:17
Message: <3fe4f76d$1@news.povray.org>
"Stephen McAvoy" <mcavoys[at]AOLdotCOM> wrote in message
news:eik6uvcbf24rk7vrlvc8dv5n1gn341u63l@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 19 Dec 2003 13:20:42 -0600, "GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet>
wrote:
>
> >What I have downloaded from the web, and from these groups would
> >have cost thousands of dollars for any other program.  The list of people
I
> >would have to thank is longer than I would be allowed to post in a
> >non-binary group.
>
> Goes for me too. And if I had a beard it would be grey also :-}
>
The grey comes with age, the insanity is inherited,

It comes from my kid.


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From: Stephen McAvoy
Subject: Re: About PovRay 4
Date: 21 Dec 2003 11:18:28
Message: <6uhbuvolft1b8bij791a2kufkc34430hfm@4ax.com>
On Sat, 20 Dec 2003 19:29:24 -0600, "GreyBeard" <r.b### [at] sbcglobalnet> wrote:

>the insanity is inherited,
>
>It comes from my kid.

LOL :-}

Regards
        Stephen


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