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From: ingo
Subject: where is it?
Date: 8 Nov 2000 12:13:46
Message: <8FE6B83F0seed7@povray.org>
A while ago somebody asked about placing text, I think on a curve. In this 
thread Ron posted a macro to manipulate text. Could somebody point me to 
the thread, I can't find it anymore.


Ingo

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: where is it?
Date: 8 Nov 2000 23:50:28
Message: <3A0A2CC8.D723EB8@faricy.net>
ingo wrote:

> A while ago somebody asked about placing text, I think on a curve. In this
> thread Ron posted a macro to manipulate text. Could somebody point me to
> the thread, I can't find it anymore.

What do you want to do? This could range from do it in your sleep to downright
impossible...

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From: ingo
Subject: Re: where is it?
Date: 9 Nov 2000 02:02:29
Message: <8FE752D0Bseed7@povray.org>
David Fontaine wrote:

>ingo wrote:
>
>> A while ago somebody asked about placing text, I think on a curve. In
>> this thread Ron posted a macro to manipulate text. Could somebody
>> point me to the thread, I can't find it anymore.
>
>What do you want to do? 

I just want a look at the macro, since I didn't pay mutch attention I 
don't remember what it all exactly was about. So I cant find it and doing 
a XPAT search in all groups on Ron is a bit to mutch.


Ingo

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: where is it?
Date: 9 Nov 2000 14:29:51
Message: <slrn90lum2.1ui.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 9 Nov 2000 02:02:29 -0500, ingo wrote:
>David Fontaine wrote:
>
>>ingo wrote:
>>
>>> A while ago somebody asked about placing text, I think on a curve. In
>>> this thread Ron posted a macro to manipulate text. Could somebody
>>> point me to the thread, I can't find it anymore.
>>
>>What do you want to do? 
>
>I just want a look at the macro, since I didn't pay mutch attention I 
>don't remember what it all exactly was about. So I cant find it and doing 
>a XPAT search in all groups on Ron is a bit to mutch.

Worse yet, it may not have been I who posted it.  I certainly don't remember
writing such a macro.

Here's a post that might be what you're looking for.  It's not a macro, 
though.

  From: "Eric Freeman" <eri### [at] ametronet>
  Newsgroups: povray.text.scene-files
  Subject: Curved Text for Handler
  Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:46:58 -0500
  Message-ID: <37fafe75@news.povray.org>
  Xref: news.povray.org povray.text.scene-files:2123

The original thread was at least partly in povray.binaries.images; here's
the info on the post that started it off:

  From: "Handler" <web### [at] netscapenet>
  Newsgroups: povray.binaries.images
  Subject: Bending text into a curve or partial arc? Is this possible?
  Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 07:42:20 -0400
  Message-ID: <37f5efc4@news.povray.org>
  Xref: news.povray.org povray.binaries.images:20120

Unfortunately, it's expired from the server.  Remco de Korte followed up 
with a solution as well, but I'm not sure if there was a macro to go with
it.  You might look at other stuff around the same date in one of the 
scene-files groups.

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From: ingo
Subject: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 9 Nov 2000 17:08:01
Message: <8FE7E32E3seed7@povray.org>
Ron Parker wrote:

>Worse yet, it may not have been I who posted it.  I certainly don't
>remember writing such a macro.

Thanks Ron, it seems I was quite wrong,

>  From: "Eric Freeman" <eri### [at] ametronet>
>  Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 02:46:58 -0500
>  Message-ID: <37fafe75@news.povray.org>

and it's mutch older than I thought.

It does exactly what I thought, but not what I hoped. Is there a way to 
get the kerning(?) of a text with a macro? Or does that need a patch (is 
it the total_offset in truetype.c)?

I'd like to somehowe get an array with the minimal x-coordinate of each 
letter in a text-object. This for better placing text along an arc or 
curve. With fixed letter distances it look terrible, especialy, the in 
Dutch often used, "ij" combination. I'm trying to make a Pythonscript 
using the FreeType library, but it's still a bit above my powers :(


Ingo

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From: Ron Parker
Subject: Re: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 9 Nov 2000 17:39:28
Message: <slrn90m9mi.23r.ron.parker@fwi.com>
On 9 Nov 2000 17:08:01 -0500, ingo wrote:
>It does exactly what I thought, but not what I hoped. Is there a way to 
>get the kerning(?) of a text with a macro? Or does that need a patch (is 
>it the total_offset in truetype.c)?

Ah, now kerning is something I wrote a macro for.  It's in 
povray.programming.

Message-ID: <slr### [at] parkerrfwicom>
Date: 27 Feb 2000 13:13:40 -0500
Subject: Re: Font Metrics Function


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 9 Nov 2000 18:11:09
Message: <8FE89008seed7@povray.org>
Ron Parker wrote:

>Ah, now kerning is something I wrote a macro for.  It's in 
>povray.programming.

Got it :)
thanks again,

Ingo

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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 9 Nov 2000 23:18:08
Message: <3A0B76A7.64FFDDFC@faricy.net>
ingo wrote:

> and it's mutch older than I thought.
>
> It does exactly what I thought, but not what I hoped. Is there a way to
> get the kerning(?) of a text with a macro? Or does that need a patch (is
> it the total_offset in truetype.c)?
>
> I'd like to somehowe get an array with the minimal x-coordinate of each
> letter in a text-object. This for better placing text along an arc or
> curve. With fixed letter distances it look terrible, especialy, the in
> Dutch often used, "ij" combination. I'm trying to make a Pythonscript
> using the FreeType library, but it's still a bit above my powers :(

You can use min_extent and max_extent in MegaPOV, but that still won't give
true kerning in the sense that when letters fit together like puzzle pieces
their space should overlap some. I used this solution for the POV Userdisk
(that's not by any chance what you were talking about?).

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From: Tim Riley
Subject: Re: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 13 Nov 2000 11:48:08
Message: <3A101B48.6C580220@its.bldrdoc.gov>
It took me a while to dig it up, but I have a text macro written by a
Michael D Johnson, dated May, 1996, that will place text on a curve in
a variety of orientations. It's set up for Times Roman only since it
uses a predefined table for individual character widths.

I don't know if Mr. Johnson is still around (his web page host doesn't
appear to exist any longer), but in the header of the .inc file, he puts
the macro in the public domain. Let me know if this interests anyone and
I'll post it to p.b.u.


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From: ingo
Subject: Re: Kernig [was: where is it?]
Date: 13 Nov 2000 15:38:58
Message: <8FEBD5E52seed7@povray.org>
Tim Riley wrote:

>Let me know if this interests anyone and
>I'll post it to p.b.u.
>
Always interested,
thank you.

Ingo

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