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On Tue, 28 Apr 2009 17:46:03 -0400, Jim Charter wrote:
> David Buck wrote:
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>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. M
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> I have always been curious about this story.
Same here. :-)
Jim
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"Jim Charter" <jrc### [at] msn com> schreef in bericht
news:49f77936$1@news.povray.org...
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> I have always been curious about this story.
Yes indeed!
Thomas
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David Buck <dav### [at] simberon com> wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy, how about
going for Print On Demand?
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clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberon com> wrote:
>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
>> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
>> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
>
> Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy, how about
> going for Print On Demand?
>
Print on Demand is always an option but you do need to anticipate lower
sales and much more work on marketing. It's a definite option, though.
David
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On Sun, 03 May 2009 07:41:11 -0400, clipka wrote:
> David Buck <dav### [at] simberon com> wrote:
>> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
>> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
>> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
>> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
>> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
>> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
>
> Just in case the feedback from conventional publishers would be lousy,
> how about going for Print On Demand?
Or an e-book, I have some friends who have self-published an e-book for a
niche market, and while there is a risk of piracy, enough were willing to
pay for it that they did very well.
One friend wrote a book about a little-used firewall/proxy solution and
priced it at $29.95. He sold about 1,000 copies of it - not a lot in the
world of publishing (not enough for any serious publisher to pick it up),
but he made > $30K for it, minus the price of a copy of Framemaker, which
I recall is what he published it with.
Conversely, the first book I did, we sold about 7,000 copies and I made
about $1.50/copy - not quite enough to pay back the advance I received.
Jim
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Jim Henderson wrote:
> Conversely, the first book I did, we sold about 7,000 copies and I made
> about $1.50/copy - not quite enough to pay back the advance I received.
Indeed - the book publishing industry really isn't very profitable for the
majority of authors. I recall reading the "Advice to Authors, by Anonymae"
article in RTN many years ago, and suspect that many of the things in it are
still true today.
http://tog.acm.org/resources/RTNews/html/rtnv9n2.html#art2
Also, the attitude of some publishers towards what they get when a contract is
signed has to be taken into consideration: see for example the Mathworld story
at http://www.ericweisstein.com/authors-rights/erics_commentary.html.
-- Chris
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David Buck wrote:
> I'm feeling more and more that there's an interesting story to be told
> about DKBTrace/POVRay that I'm the only person in a position to tell.
> Others can talk about POVRay and what it does but I'm the only one who
> knows where the ideas came from and how it all came to be. My wife is
> encouraging me to pursue the idea. I think I'll do some basic research
> and see if it makes sense to propose it to a publisher.
It would be an interesting thing to read, especially getting into the technical
areas. But I don't know if a traditional publisher would be convinced of the
potential. I would suggest perhaps using one of the print-on-demand services
that allow books to be ordered via the internet (e.g. the POV-Ray website could
link to or sell them).
Probably I ought to make the docs available that way someday too; I personally
(having grown up in the pre-personal computer era) prefer tutorial-type
documentation in dead tree format, and in fact one of the first things I did
when learning POV-Ray back in the 1.0 days was print out the entire manual. (I
can remember this because I only a few weeks back did a garage clean-out and
came across the original printout I did about 15 years ago!)
I also would be keen to see a new beginners-type book on POV-Ray, however that's
a fair chunk of work, though it's possible it could be based on one of the
existing (old) ones as a starting point; I think Eduard's one is probably the
more recent, and I seem to recall he did get the copyright back.
-- Chris
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