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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 14:16:53
Message: <41eeb225$1@news.povray.org>
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http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=&t=&c=
Retro Cuisine image!!!!
Marc
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http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=&t=&c=
I like how the thumbnail pops up a *smaller* version of the image.
I can't tell who the artist who "made" these images is supposed to be. If
it's not whoever it was that we know made that image, they must have stolen
a thumbnail of it from somewhere...
- Slime
[ http://www.slimeland.com/ ]
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in news:41eeb225$1@news.povray.org Marc Jacquier wrote:
> http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=
> &t=&c=
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> Retro Cuisine image!!!!
>
Yes,
http://www.ignorancia.org/img_page.php?image=14&db=irtc
Ingo
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From: Jeremy M Praay
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 15:30:23
Message: <41eec35f$1@news.povray.org>
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"Slime" <fak### [at] email address> wrote in message
news:41eeb5bc$1@news.povray.org...
> >
> http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=&t=&c=
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> I like how the thumbnail pops up a *smaller* version of the image.
>
> I can't tell who the artist who "made" these images is supposed to be. If
> it's not whoever it was that we know made that image, they must have
> stolen
> a thumbnail of it from somewhere...
>
I doubt that Jaime posted it, since the other images are not his (I don't
believe). "Retro-Cuisine" does not seem to fit the actual story behind the
Awhile back, I saw my "Radio Graves" image pop up on another Web-site. The
person posting it on their page claimed to have "created" it, because they
"rendered it" (I supplied full source via the IRTC). I assumed that the
web-page author was 12-years old and I didn't think the matter was worth
pursuing. However, if it popped up on a 3D community page (like this), I
would probably pursue it further.
--
Jeremy
www.beantoad.com
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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 15:33:05
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news:Xns95E3D8F8E198seed7@news.povray.org...
> in news:41eeb225$1@news.povray.org Marc Jacquier wrote:
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> > http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=
> > &t=&c=
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> > Retro Cuisine image!!!!
> >
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> Yes,
>
> http://www.ignorancia.org/img_page.php?image=14&db=irtc
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> Ingo
Yes! Strange isn't it?
Marc
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 17:06:48
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Marc Jacquier wrote:
> http://www.3dvf.com/modules/galerie/artiste/index.php?idartist=4238&p=&t=&c=
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> Retro Cuisine image!!!!
Well... this guy is awesome: he submitted it to several other
galleries! This kind of people always amaze me, in that they don't seem
to even think about being caught.
Indeed, I found his home page too:
http://www.ifrance.com/artvif/GalMarty.html
Anyone can find their images there?
I don't really know if it's worth the effort required to complain to
each gallery site for the image removal... I feel my time is better
expend making more images worth to be stoled. But I will for sure write
a "nice" email to this guy...
Thanks for the finding, Marc, I had nothing more urgent to do than to
investigate this guy activities. :)
--
Jaime
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From: Marc Jacquier
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 17:30:23
Message: <41eedf7f@news.povray.org>
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de news:41eed9f8$1@news.povray.org...
> Well... this guy is awesome: he submitted it to several other
> galleries! This kind of people always amaze me, in that they don't seem
> to even think about being caught.
>
> Indeed, I found his home page too:
>
> http://www.ifrance.com/artvif/GalMarty.html
>
> Anyone can find their images there?
I'll go and have an eye :)
>
> I don't really know if it's worth the effort required to complain to
> each gallery site for the image removal... I feel my time is better
> expend making more images worth to be stoled. But I will for sure write
> a "nice" email to this guy...
>
> Thanks for the finding, Marc, I had nothing more urgent to do than to
> investigate this guy activities. :)
I didn't find it, Lightbeam did while we were chatting on IRC and he was
somewhat busy (oh yes it's compatible), so I was designed as volunteer to
post :-p
Marc
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From: St
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 17:57:42
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"Jaime Vives Piqueres" <jai### [at] ignoranciaorg> almost wrote in the
message news:41eed9f8$1@news.povray.org...
> "...But I will for sure kick this guy in the goolies when I see him..."
~Steve~ ;)
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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 19 Jan 2005 19:52:38
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de news: 41eed9f8$1@news.povray.org...
> Well... this guy is awesome: he submitted it to several other
> galleries! This kind of people always amaze me, in that they don't seem to
> even think about being caught.
This is really bizarre. I can't make sense of the "Artvif" gallery/person
that seems to be at the centre of this. The Artfvif site is a total mess of
a website that is spread over several free ISPs. In fact it looks like some
sort of very loose art collective that is used by its "members" to put some
images on line and generate some advertising revenues. I'm not sure that all
the "members" are even aware of their presence on the site, as many images
aren't even signed. The Artvif people have a special interest in Madagascar,
though this isn't explained anywhere.
It is this "Artvif" that submitted a series of pictures, including yours,
Overdoz, Yamafoto) with some bogus information. It's weirder than the case
we had last year of a student who had appropriated a dozen of images to make
himself look like a 3D bigshot.
the author of Virtualight) who has (I hope) nothing to do with this one.
G.
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From: Jaime Vives Piqueres
Subject: Re: Doesn't this image strangely looks like another?
Date: 20 Jan 2005 03:35:21
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Gilles Tran wrote:
> This is really bizarre. I can't make sense of the "Artvif" gallery/person
> that seems to be at the centre of this. The Artfvif site is a total mess of
> a website that is spread over several free ISPs. In fact it looks like some
> sort of very loose art collective that is used by its "members" to put some
> images on line and generate some advertising revenues. I'm not sure that all
> the "members" are even aware of their presence on the site, as many images
> aren't even signed. The Artvif people have a special interest in Madagascar,
> though this isn't explained anywhere.
Yeah... same conclusion here. But I think it's only 1 person, called
Harvel Ireney, surely from Madagascar but living in France. This guy is
really weird... but at the end all seems to respond to a need to
generate ad revenues by any means (the amount and diversity of the sites
where he submitted links to Artvif is impressive, only explained by this
need).
> It is this "Artvif" that submitted a series of pictures, including yours,
> signed by "St廧hane Marty" and others to various galleries (3DVF, Zieutez,
> Overdoz, Yamafoto) with some bogus information.
Well.. that's the most intriguing part... perhaps not the same
person, perhaps someone who wanted to expose/compromise Artvif...
> Note that there's a "St廧hane Marty" who is well-known in the 3D world (he's
> the author of Virtualight) who has (I hope) nothing to do with this one.
I don't think there is "another" Stephane Marty... is this
Artvif/Harvel Ireney who attributes these images to Stephane, and others
to Luc Bianco or Piere Carril... he pretends these are french artist who
work/create for Artvif...
I'm going to start with a polite/friendly email telling him that the
attribution to Stephane Marty in Artvif is wrong, to see how he reacts.
I will keep you all updated... :)
--
Jaime
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