In article <4121ce26@news.povray.org> , "Gilles Tran" 
<gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

> Just updated my website...
> http://www.oyonale.com/oy_en.htm
> Link to the "new images and resources" page
> http://www.oyonale.com/new_en.htm

I just noticed your plants demo at
<http://www.oyonale.com/histoire/images/plants_demo_360.mov>.  I have to say
for a demo image that is *very* impressive!

    Thorsten

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Thorsten Froehlich <tho### [at] trfde> wrote:
> I just noticed your plants demo at
> <http://www.oyonale.com/histoire/images/plants_demo_360.mov>.  I have to say
> for a demo image that is *very* impressive!

  Btw, would it be possible to get that movie in a non-proprietary/closed
format viewable in most platforms?

  I always wonder why people are so eager to use proprietary closed
formats which require a certain specific player to watch (which is
usually available for 1-2 OSs) when there are better alternatives.
  I would understand this if the compression/quality ratio would be
superb in these formats, but it's actually the exact opposite.

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In article <4125b6ab@news.povray.org> , Warp <war### [at] tagpovrayorg>  wrote:

>  I always wonder why people are so eager to use proprietary closed
> formats which require a certain specific player to watch (which is
> usually available for 1-2 OSs) when there are better alternatives.
>   I would understand this if the compression/quality ratio would be
> superb in these formats, but it's actually the exact opposite.

I don't think there is a standard 3d panorama format available, and if any
QuickTime is the most cross-platform of them all ... of course, without
being able to see it, you cannot know there is a 3d panorama inside!

Gilles has a link to a traditional 2d image from his 2004 updates page (at
the bottom, second from the left iirc).  The scene file is also there, so
you can render it yourself.  Of course, the scene file is in a proprietary
format as well.  I think it is this odd proprietary POV-Ray format or
something like that ;-)

    Thorsten

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>   Btw, would it be possible to get that movie in a non-proprietary/closed
> format viewable in most platforms?


my knowledge only Apple's Quicktime format supports the concept (there's no
MPEG version).
The alternate solution is to use a JPEG with a Java applet such as PTViewer,
but because it's an applet it needs to be in its separate HTML page (I can't
link to the file directly). Also, the viewing quality is inferior to that of
QT, which is much smoother and loads progressively.
So basically I got lazy (and also concerned with the additional 1 Mb space
taken by the JPEG). I've done it for all the "artistic" panoramas (see
http://www.oyonale.com/ldc/english/mainstreet_east_jv.htm)  but gave only
the QT for the demos and the "Infinite Spire" story.
In any case, here it is.
http://www.oyonale.com/histoire/images/plants_demo.htm (I'll be adding some
other demo thingies in the next days anyway).

G.


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Gilles Tran wrote:

to
> my knowledge only Apple's Quicktime format supports the concept

>There are several different proprietary formats for doing this sort of
>thing. No standards I know of, tho.

Yes, you're right. Now I remember that there's indeed a little jungle of
vendors of panorama solutions. I investigated them when I was looking for a
good panorama format, but all of them seemed even more proprietary than
Apple, and the tools aren't free and the viewers tend to come with strings
attached etc. Not to mention the dead formats...

G.


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WOW! I could (and did!) spend all afternoon browsing the goodies on your 
site. Thank you very much for sharing this with the world!

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Gilles Tran wrote:
> Just updated my website...
> http://www.oyonale.com/oy_en.htm
> Link to the "new images and resources" page
> http://www.oyonale.com/new_en.htm
> There are not that many new images, sorry... Between learning new software
> and other things, I haven't done much POV-Ray lately. Also, with almost 150
> pages, I'm closing down the Book of Beginnings. The first images were
> uploaded on the internet in 1995, so it's about time I move on and try new
> things in CG.
> My current goal POV-Ray-wise is to publish the models created for the
> scenes, so there are some big downloads here:
> - sci-fi models (already made available here)
> http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources14.htm
> - plants and tree models :
> http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources15.htm
> - Mini Cooper and building models
> http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources16.htm
> There's also a separate page for photographic textures
> http://perso.wanadoo.fr/oyonale/.
> Note that the scripts, models and textures are now under a clearer (I hope)
> Creative Commons Attribution License, that basically says that you are free
> to use and distribute this material, and that you can use it commercially or
> not, provided that the author is credited and the license transfered in case
> of redistribution.
> More goodies to come, but I need to create proper demo scenes before!
> 
> G.
>

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> > - sci-fi models (already made available here)
> > http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources14.htm

Super Gilles !  Great pic.  The sci-fi models reminds me of the "third
elements" from Besson.

Note that the following line :
#declare P_Metal03=pigment{image_map{jpeg "rust_02" interpolate 2}}
should be :
#declare P_Metal03=pigment{image_map{jpeg "rust_03" interpolate 2}}

Keep it up !!

Tommy

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On Tue, 17 Aug 2004 11:21:34 +0200, "Gilles Tran"
<gitran_nospam_@wanadoo.fr> wrote:

>Just updated my website...
>http://www.oyonale.com/oy_en.htm
>Link to the "new images and resources" page
>http://www.oyonale.com/new_en.htm
>There are not that many new images, sorry... Between learning new software
>and other things, I haven't done much POV-Ray lately. Also, with almost 150
>pages, I'm closing down the Book of Beginnings. The first images were
>uploaded on the internet in 1995, so it's about time I move on and try new
>things in CG.
>My current goal POV-Ray-wise is to publish the models created for the
>scenes, so there are some big downloads here:
>- sci-fi models (already made available here)
>http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources14.htm
>- plants and tree models :
>http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources15.htm
>- Mini Cooper and building models
>http://www.oyonale.com/ressources/english/sources16.htm
>There's also a separate page for photographic textures
>http://perso.wanadoo.fr/oyonale/.
>Note that the scripts, models and textures are now under a clearer (I hope)
>Creative Commons Attribution License, that basically says that you are free
>to use and distribute this material, and that you can use it commercially or
>not, provided that the author is credited and the license transfered in case
>of redistribution.
>More goodies to come, but I need to create proper demo scenes before!
>
>G.

Excellent news.

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