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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 26 Jan 2003 12:09:27
Message: <3e341647@news.povray.org>
I have this idea to build a web pages for a business that sells and services
intersystem space craft. Ones that would travel from her to pluto and back.

It will all be fake sort of but it will be put together like it is real.

Anyone could provide a 3d model and description of machanical operation for
a ship that would be sold at the site. Each person submitting a ship would
be a manufacture and would be able to provide many differt models. Like cars
and car companies.

The part that will be critical is that the ships will have to be design to
work for reals. An exampls is you could not claim it uses warp drive because
at the moment warp drives have not even been proven to be possible. Ion
drives have however and could be the drive device. Nuclear drives are also
possible today. basicly if a technology has been proven possible then it can
be used on the ships provided.

My desires are to make the site and the display of ships as realistic as
posible. In fact I would like it so real that we actually get inquaries
about purchases. If some one has enough money to pay all of us to acturally
do the needed research and production then great :) . But I doubt it. Anyway
that is the level of realizm I am thanking about for the ships and the site.
We would even provide an order form for them to fill out.

Does any one wish to be apart of this or am I out in left field picking
daisies whie the baseball rolls by?

Micheal Williams

P.S.
I am the one with the Pots and underwater sub images in p.b.i. i noticed
there are two Mike Williams posting here.


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From: Andrew Wilcox
Subject: Re: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 27 Jan 2003 10:55:31
Message: <3e355673$1@news.povray.org>
Pluto's a bit far.  Even just going to the moon would be a huge task.

AW


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From: Christopher James Huff
Subject: Re: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 27 Jan 2003 14:18:08
Message: <cjameshuff-B033B0.14162827012003@netplex.aussie.org>
In article <3e355673$1@news.povray.org>,
 "Andrew Wilcox" <awi### [at] unpuzzledcom> wrote:

> Pluto's a bit far.  Even just going to the moon would be a huge task.

And yet we were able to do it decades ago, and now have probes 
approaching the shock front where the solar wind hits interstellar 
space. Getting a small probe to Pluto within a couple years or even 
months would not be impossible with present technology, though it would 
be little more than an engine and fuel tank, a serious scientific probe 
would be heavier and slower. Build things in orbit so they don't have to 
survive liftoff stresses, and you can get a lot lighter. You can also 
pack a lot more fuel for the journey when you don't have to use so much 
getting off Earth.
He didn't give a timeline or any idea of infrastructure, but it is 
possible. Only thing is, there is little of commercial interest out 
there, a few unmanned probes would be all I expect. Everything else 
would concentrate in the asteroid belt and gas giants, particularly 
Jupiter and Saturn.

BTW, "insystem" would be a better term, "intersystem" would be travel 
between systems, not within one system.

-- 
Christopher James Huff <cja### [at] earthlinknet>
http://home.earthlink.net/~cjameshuff/
POV-Ray TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
http://tag.povray.org/


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From: Micheal (Mike) Williams
Subject: Re: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 27 Jan 2003 15:30:39
Message: <3e3596ef@news.povray.org>
True "insystem" is what I was thanking.

It does not matter if the vehicle is space only or earth launchable. And yes
our current technology may well be slow. But that same technology is known
to be able to create greater speeds. Just because the research is not
complete as to the details of a technology does not remove it from a
possible craft. The only thing that could not be modeled ad described for
the ships would be theory and unproven conceptions. The assumption is that a
technology we KNOW works now but has not been researched far enough to make
it efficient and effective is still a valid technology to be used.

It is not a real shop. At least that we would probably never get a customer.
One could always hope that some rich person or group would dump tons of
money on us to actually build a craft but hope is all we will have.

It is really a forum ad gallery of talented artist applying their skills to
a real and possible creation. In hopes that someone might just land work
doing something like modeling prototypes of airplanes or toasters.

Besides I really thank it would be neat. And some of these models might even
find their way into a movie or on TV.

POVRay is my preferred environment but I would not restrict it.

Any ship idea will work. Mining ships. Tourist ships. Cargo. Transport.
Military. Cruise. Anything. The use of the ship would also have to be in the
description.

Some one could also provide the station for orbit departures. Another could
provide the launch vehicle for earth transport.

To do this we would need a host and the web pages built. Then anyone wanting
to submit a ship would have to do so in a manner and then the ship would
have to be accepted given the need to stay with in current proven
technologies.

So I guess I am looking for interest and volunteers.

"Christopher James Huff" <cja### [at] earthlinknet> wrote in message
news:cja### [at] netplexaussieorg...
> In article <3e355673$1@news.povray.org>,
>  "Andrew Wilcox" <awi### [at] unpuzzledcom> wrote:
>
> > Pluto's a bit far.  Even just going to the moon would be a huge task.
>
> And yet we were able to do it decades ago, and now have probes
> approaching the shock front where the solar wind hits interstellar
> space. Getting a small probe to Pluto within a couple years or even
> months would not be impossible with present technology, though it would
> be little more than an engine and fuel tank, a serious scientific probe
> would be heavier and slower. Build things in orbit so they don't have to
> survive liftoff stresses, and you can get a lot lighter. You can also
> pack a lot more fuel for the journey when you don't have to use so much
> getting off Earth.
> He didn't give a timeline or any idea of infrastructure, but it is
> possible. Only thing is, there is little of commercial interest out
> there, a few unmanned probes would be all I expect. Everything else
> would concentrate in the asteroid belt and gas giants, particularly
> Jupiter and Saturn.
>
> BTW, "insystem" would be a better term, "intersystem" would be travel
> between systems, not within one system.
>
> --
> Christopher James Huff <cja### [at] earthlinknet>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~cjameshuff/
> POV-Ray TAG: chr### [at] tagpovrayorg
> http://tag.povray.org/


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From: Peter Hertel
Subject: Re: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 27 Jan 2003 16:31:55
Message: <3e35a54b@news.povray.org>
<snip>

Sounds like a funny idea, and I'd probably make some models, just for the
laugh of it :)
The main problem however, is how to maintain it. I have the feeling ideas
like this often starts out with a few people who are really interested, but
then dies out. ("Let's build a POV-Ray city", as an example).
But if you have the time on your hands (I sure haven't :-/ ) and can
maintain it, feel free to start up.

Followups to off-topic please.

-Peter

(moderator: is there any way to do followups to other groups automatic? i.e.
if you reply to this message, it automatically gets to off-topic?)


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From: Tom A 
Subject: Re: intersystem ship sales and service shop?
Date: 28 Jan 2003 16:50:08
Message: <3E36FB0D.9000108@my-deja.com>
Micheal (Mike) Williams wrote:
> I have this idea to build a web pages for a business that sells and services
> intersystem space craft. Ones that would travel from her to pluto and back.
> 
> It will all be fake sort of but it will be put together like it is real.
> 
> Anyone could provide a 3d model and description of machanical operation for
> a ship that would be sold at the site. Each person submitting a ship would
> be a manufacture and would be able to provide many differt models. Like cars
> and car companies.
> 
> The part that will be critical is that the ships will have to be design to
> work for reals.

Oops.  Up until here it sounded a little like my old 
www.geocities.com/meteoricshipyards site.  You can still get to the 
original ad from there, but the site is not a repository for some of my 
POV generated screen backgrounds.  And the gothic porch.

> Does any one wish to be apart of this or am I out in left field picking
> daisies whie the baseball rolls by?

Nothing wrong with your idea, I just don't have the time to work on what 
I'd like to work on, let alone your idea.

Good luck.

> Micheal Williams

-- 
Tom A.
"I've got the whole world
In my hands" - John, 3 year old Megalomaniac


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