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From: Ive
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 19 Aug 2002 13:12:36
Message: <3d612704@news.povray.org>
> also how easy is it to use transparency maps in pov? - is there a freeware
> garphics editor that works with layers and alpha channels?
>
> cheers
> jim
>

for transparency, fishnet stockings, lace or whatever I do suggest the use
of pigment_pattern like:

// the tranparency map, should be a grayscale image
#declare LacePat = pigment {image_map{png "LatticeTrans" interpolate 2} }

// the texture map
#declare LaceMap = pigment {image_map{jpg "LatticeTX" interpolate 2} }

// for the *invisible* parts
#local LaceTrans = texture{
   pigment{LaceMap transmit 1 filter 0}
   finish {diffuse .6 specular 0} //specular, reflection set to 0.0 !!!
}
// for the *visible* parts
#local LaceText  = texture{
  pigment{LaceMap}
  finish {diffuse .6 specular .5 roughness 0.05}//you can also use
reflection
  normal {pigment_pattern{LaceMap} 0.03 } // any normal statement here
}

// this is the final texture for the mesh and
// the name should match to the name given
// by the converter you use.
#declare T_Lace = texture {
   pigment_pattern{LacePat}
   texture_map {
      [0.0 LaceTrans ]
      [1.0 LaceText  ]
   }
}

there are 3 advatages compared to the (older) way by using images with
alpha channel:

1) easier to handle (you do not nead Photoshop or something like this)
2) there is no need to have the image and transparency map at the same size.
3.and most important I think) you can also apply specular highlights and
even reflections to the texture. This is not possible with alpha channels
'cause highlight and reflection is also applied to the *invisble* parts of
the texture.

If I would not be the lazy guy that I am, I had already written that short
tutorial - as promised already. BTW in the same way I have created the
cloth mesh for the Marshall speaker and I do also use this technique for
the XFrog plants.

hope this helps
-Ive


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From: James Taylor
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 19 Aug 2002 20:44:38
Message: <3d6190f6@news.povray.org>
thanks, both you and Gilles have said pretty much the same thing. I had it
in my head (for some unknown reason) that transparency maps were stupidly
difficult to use in pov - but I guess not :)

jim

also I'm still looking for a decent resource of poser clothing - so far all
i've found is chastity belts, lingerie and military outfits - i just need
some regular everyday clothes...


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 05:13:53
Message: <3d620851$1@news.povray.org>

3d6190f6@news.povray.org...
> also I'm still looking for a decent resource of poser clothing - so far
all
> i've found is chastity belts, lingerie and military outfits - i just need
> some regular everyday clothes...

I fear that there's no such thing. The only resource for old P3/P4 free
material is Renderosity and their free stuff galleries were cleaned up of
older material a couple of years ago. In P3, there were no conforming
clothes so users used the default P3 clothed people, which are not so bad.
In P4, conforming clothes were introduced and a simple wardrobe (pants,
shirts etc.) was provided with the default models, so there was no real need
to create everyday clothes.
Poser tailoring only took off when DAZ and Renderosity started brokering
models, particularly when the Millenium models were introduced. Even now,
common clothes are less popular than lingerie or other "special" clothes.
For instance, coats for the Millenium people were available for sale only
recently. Most of the clothes found today are either commercial or morphs of
commercial ones.

G.

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From: James Taylor
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 09:02:16
Message: <3d623dd8$1@news.povray.org>
I found this website, (has some useful clothes) and all seems well until you
get to page 4 of his gallery section :o

http://209.92.41.204/Poser/index.html

I'm not entirely sure what the thing with the nuns is supposed to be...

jim


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From: Gilles Tran
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 09:56:48
Message: <3d624aa0$1@news.povray.org>

3d623dd8$1@news.povray.org...
> I'm not entirely sure what the thing with the nuns is supposed to be...

At least it's reassuring to know that there's a market for religious images,
particularly if they include garter belts and leather props. No monks or
bishops, though. Weird.

Rich site, BTW. I had it in my bookmarks but I had somehow missed the casual
clothes...

G.

--

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http://www.oyonale.com
**********************
- Graphic experiments
- POV-Ray and Poser computer images
- Posters


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 10:01:44
Message: <3d624bc8$1@news.povray.org>
"James Taylor" <jim### [at] blueyondercouk> wrote in message
news:3d6033db@news.povray.org...
> Hi all,
>

<snip>

Wow, you mean you can put clothes on Poser models?!?

This is great news as there are obviously a lot of people who don't know this.


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 10:17:43
Message: <3D625020.EACDDD1B@pacbell.net>
Gilles Tran wrote:
> 

> 3d623dd8$1@news.povray.org...
> > I'm not entirely sure what the thing with the nuns is supposed to be...
> 
> At least it's reassuring to know that there's a market for religious images,
> particularly if they include garter belts and leather props. No monks or
> bishops, though. Weird.
> 
> Rich site, BTW. I had it in my bookmarks but I had somehow missed the casual
> clothes...

The Baument site also has a few free clothes available in the archives section
but mostly medieval in nature. I don't know if they are compatible with Poser.

http://www.baument.com/

-- 
Ken Tyler


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 10:44:23
Message: <3d6255c7@news.povray.org>
"Tom Melly" <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> wrote in message
news:3d624bc8$1@news.povray.org...
> "James Taylor" <jim### [at] blueyondercouk> wrote in message
> news:3d6033db@news.povray.org...
> > Hi all,
> >
>
> <snip>
>
> Wow, you mean you can put clothes on Poser models?!?
>
> This is great news as there are obviously a lot of people who don't know
this.
>

Have a look at  http://www.poserfashion.net/

There are indeed some people who dress poor Posette to
prevent her from a cold.

so long
-Ive


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From: Ive
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 20 Aug 2002 10:56:07
Message: <3d625887@news.povray.org>
"James Taylor" <jim### [at] blueyondercouk> wrote in message
news:3d623dd8$1@news.povray.org...
> I found this website, (has some useful clothes) and all seems well until
you
> get to page 4 of his gallery section :o
>
> http://209.92.41.204/Poser/index.html
>
> I'm not entirely sure what the thing with the nuns is supposed to be...
>
> jim
>
>


Maybe also of interest: http://site.yahoo.net/happyworldland/poser.html

There are a few textures for the P3 woman with higher resolution than
the default map that comes along with Poser.
And no nuns.

The P3 figures are not so bad at all. Especially when you need a dozen
of them for a scene and have only 256Mb (like me) . With fully dressed
and textured Vicky and Michael  figures there would more than 1GB
required, I guess.

so long
-Ive


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From: Jim Charter
Subject: Re: poser 3 clothing help
Date: 22 Aug 2002 00:07:06
Message: <3D6464CF.5040801@aol.com>
That was a revelation!
> 
> I'm not entirely sure what the thing with the nuns is supposed to be...
> 
> jim
> 
>


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