Hmm gives me an idea for a rendering...
"Delicious, whole-grain cereal with the shapes of your favourite
primitives and some special treats (Look for all the stellations
of the icosahedron!  Collect the whole set!)."

...sorry ;)

-- 
Tim Cook
http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com

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Well that reminds me of another thing. Why the only way to support the
POV-Team is to buy the IRTC  CD ?

I mean, i like IRTC stuff but out of 200 pics there's only 10 that i would
like to keep, specially because only a few competitors put the whole source
codes in the zip. On the other hand, i would just LOVE to have a POV mug in
my table, or a POV mouse pad.

The webloggers in www.blogger.com can but Blogger mugs, why we can't ??

I know that sounds stupid and commercial, but i am sure there's more people
in that situation. I think the POV-Team should consider selling some other
stuff.

Will
PS: i hope i don't regret saying this.

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> Hmm gives me an idea for a rendering...
> "Delicious, whole-grain cereal with the shapes of your favourite
> primitives and some special treats (Look for all the stellations
> of the icosahedron!  Collect the whole set!)."
>
> ...sorry ;)
>
> --
> Tim Cook
> http://empyrean.scifi-fantasy.com
>
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Wilson Reis wrote:
> On the other hand, i would just LOVE to have a POV mug in
> my table, or a POV mouse pad.

I'd like to preorder a POV mousepad, too.  And a T-shirt. :)
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Wasn't it MR who wrote:

>ok, i know that the pov-ray documentation is VERY good,
>both tutorial-wise and syntax description.  but i went to barnes
>and noble and there are no in-print books for pov-ray.

I guess that if they let "Ray Tracing Creations" and "Ray Tracing Worlds
with POV-RAY" go out of print, it probably meant that not many of us had
been buying them.

-- 
Mike Williams
Gentleman of Leisure

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Mike Williams wrote:

>
> I guess that if they let "Ray Tracing Creations" and "Ray Tracing Worlds
> with POV-RAY" go out of print, it probably meant that not many of us had
> been buying them.

I own a copy of Ray Tracing Worlds, and, even after all these years you can
still go back and learn something. Although the book is written for POV-Ray
2.2, many of the concepts still apply.

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MR wrote:
> 
> ...
> 
> so i want somebody to write a big fat juicy pov-ray book
> with beautiful renderings complete with chapters on using
> third party software like 3DWin and Moray.

Already did that, had the author of Moray write the bits about Moray. 
Had lparser tucked in there too.  I'm pretty sure I still have the two
boxes of floppies that held the text and images.

> ...  and chapters
> on media and isosurfaces written so clearly that my pet
> hamster can understand it.

That stuff hadn't been invented yet.  Besides which, I'm not sure my
blazing 33Mhz 486 would really have been up to it.

> 
> so come on!  i know you experts don't have anything else to
> do in your spare time!  ;-)

If only my wife and kids thought that way.

> 
> also, i would prefer the book to be given away for free, just
> like the software.  fine print in the back saying its not exactly
> free is acceptable.

How about shipping and handling charges?

Xander

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"Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in message
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> Wilson Reis wrote:
> > On the other hand, i would just LOVE to have a POV mug in
> > my table, or a POV mouse pad.
>
> I'd like to preorder a POV mousepad, too.  And a T-shirt. :)

A quick look for places to do that shows it might be a workable idea, were
it not for one thing... quantity.  Since it isn't feasible to sell single
items per person there would have to be a large sum of money invested first.
See:

http://www.mugs-n-more.com/prices.html

Considering 100 preordered items of each kind (hey, buttons too :-)) it
would take about 3250 U$.

Bob H.

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I don't know how big the sales would be, but i think the POV Team could make
a deal with some other company which is more flexible.
It would be better if the "mug/bottom/t-shirt/whatever" company could sell
the "mugs/bottoms/T-shirts/whatever" and also deal with ship and handling
stuff. That's probably a less profitable option, but it would be less
time-consuming. I don't know how it works nowadays with the IRTC CD, perhaps
there's another solution , right?

Will
(don't forget i get a 0.5% for the idea :PPP )





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> "Timothy R. Cook" <tim### [at] scifi-fantasycom> wrote in message
> news:3BC73F8D.F9F9C84E@scifi-fantasy.com...
> > Wilson Reis wrote:
> > > On the other hand, i would just LOVE to have a POV mug in
> > > my table, or a POV mouse pad.
> >
> > I'd like to preorder a POV mousepad, too.  And a T-shirt. :)
>
> A quick look for places to do that shows it might be a workable idea, were
> it not for one thing... quantity.  Since it isn't feasible to sell single
> items per person there would have to be a large sum of money invested
first.
> See:
>
> http://www.mugs-n-more.com/prices.html
>
> Considering 100 preordered items of each kind (hey, buttons too :-)) it
> would take about 3250 U$.
>
> Bob H.
>
>
>

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> It would be better if the "mug/bottom/t-shirt/whatever" company could sell
> the "mugs/bottoms/T-shirts/whatever" and also deal with ship and handling
> stuff. That's probably a less profitable option, but it would be less
> time-consuming. I don't know how it works nowadays with the IRTC CD,
perhaps
> there's another solution , right?

Before someone pulls Will's leg because of the usage of the word "bottom",
let me explain that this is how the imported term "button" is pronounced in
Brazil. Sometimes (as it s the case here) it gets spelled like it sounds,
and we get in trouble. A long time ago, while trading pins and buttons with
fellow Rotary exchange students in Canada, I managed to make quite an ass of
myself by saying "here, have my bottom" to an Australian. Sad, isn't it?

Ruy

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oops !

thanks :-)

Will

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> "Wilson Reis" <wil### [at] ismcombr> escreveu na mensagem
> news:3bc7e5db@news.povray.org...
> > It would be better if the "mug/bottom/t-shirt/whatever" company could
sell
> > the "mugs/bottoms/T-shirts/whatever" and also deal with ship and
handling
> > stuff. That's probably a less profitable option, but it would be less
> > time-consuming. I don't know how it works nowadays with the IRTC CD,
> perhaps
> > there's another solution , right?
>
> Before someone pulls Will's leg because of the usage of the word "bottom",
> let me explain that this is how the imported term "button" is pronounced
in
> Brazil. Sometimes (as it s the case here) it gets spelled like it sounds,
> and we get in trouble. A long time ago, while trading pins and buttons
with
> fellow Rotary exchange students in Canada, I managed to make quite an ass
of
> myself by saying "here, have my bottom" to an Australian. Sad, isn't it?
>
> Ruy
>
>

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