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Even I considered asking Chris to stop this. Two reasons why did not do it:
1. Chris time is much valueable to be wasted with this rubbish.
2. Even if it's rubbish I hold the right of free speech quite high.
This would allow only two things:
a. Keep it going without censorship and risk more and more rubbish or
b. shut it down completely
Looks like Chris decided for option b and I can't say that I'm too unhappy
with that.
Marc
--
The right of free speech is not like free beer. You've got to work for it!
M. Schimmler
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Josh English wrote:
> I am sad and glad to see it go. When it started it was a very good idea, and I
> enjoyed it. As of late it has been abused. I hope that after a cooling off
> period Chris Cason will consider bringing it back.
I agree.
When it was first formed I was very happy with it, and visited all the time. It
was a friendly community, and an enjoyable place to visit.
Slowly it devolved into more and more arguments. At first they were entertaining,
or funny. Eventually they got tiresome. Then I left entirely for about a month or
so, and I didn't really miss it. I came back a couple of days ago to see what was
happening, and was very surprised at what it had become.
It was a great idea, but perhaps the time had come to put it out of it's misery. I
can only hope that after a few weeks or months of cooling off time that it can be
reinstated in some form. I don't know how, though. I'm afraid the damage done may
be to much to ever repair.
Simon
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Personally, I'm not surprised that it got removed. I last reset the
newsgroup less than two months ago. Since then, there have been over
fifteen hundred messages that have met the criteria for either my killfile
or my ignore list.
--
Mark
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Vahur Krouverk wrote:
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> Chris C wrote:
> >
> > off-topic was removed due to consistent abuse.
>
> Wouldn't it have been better to warn users of off-topic group before
> removing it and only if this didn't help, then close that group? (Sorry,
> if this was done already, I quit reading off-topic group couple of month
> ago and don't know, what happened there).
> My only concern with this group removing is the possible increase of
> off-topic messages in other groups now. Hopefully TAG and POV-Ray team
> members will follow new administration rules and avoid this...
It was removed the instant he discovered his email had been made
public.
--
Convicting the criminal is not the same as
preventing the crime.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 82
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Steve wrote:
>
> On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 09:32:18 -0000, Tom Melly wrote:
> >Well?
> >
> >(It's not showing up and has been removed from the avail. newsgroups on this
> >server).
>
> I've got the last four months worth on disk. That'll be an antique now.
>
> It's sad that a very small minority spoiled it for everyone.
That was the intention of those who spend hours every day perfecting
their "I am outraged!" routine. If they can't control it they want it
stopped.
--
Now it all depends upon what the meaning of "count" is.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 353
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Bill Dewitt wrote:
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> "Bill Dewitt" <bde### [at] cfl rrcom> wrote :
> >
> > I know who those people are
> > because several of them have emailed me and attempted to continue their
> > agenda of hate and insult since the OT group was shut down.
>
> Some of whom continue to write me after I have asked them not to...
Copies of that request to abu### [at] ispcom usually works instantly.
--
The lesser of two evils remains an evil.
-- The Iron Webmaster, 292
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"Rick [Kitty5]" wrote:
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> > : wonderful tactic, remove the whole group just to silence one individual
> who
> > : you allowed to get up your nose - because that's what he does given half
> the
> > : chance.
> >
> > I don't think that responding with a troll is the best way to go...
>
> wasn't intended as such, but that's the fact of it, you get a person who
> enjoys nothing more than winding people up, getting wound up is as good as
> an invite for more.
It is also a path of enlightenment should they ever ask why they view
something emotionally rather than intellectually.
Emotion has no place in reason. So an emotional response is prima facia
evidence of the response not befitting a member of a rational species.
--
Live fast, love well, and have a glorious website.
<a href="http://www.giwersworld.org/mgiwer/">
The rest of Matt Giwer's World</a>
-- The Iron Webmaster, 61
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Everyone's talking about the abuse of pot, but it looks like I didn't really
check that group very often... What kind of abuse? I don't really
understand how a newsgroup, designed to talk about *any* subject, can be
abused?
Tom Melly <tom### [at] tomandlucouk> schreef in berichtnieuws
3a49b723@news.povray.org...
> Well?
>
> (It's not showing up and has been removed from the avail. newsgroups on
this
> server).
--
ZK
http://www.povplace.be.tf
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Zeger Knaepen wrote:
> Everyone's talking about the abuse of pot, but it looks like I didn't
really
> check that group very often... What kind of abuse? I don't really
> understand how a newsgroup, designed to talk about *any* subject, can be
> abused?
It wasn't designed to discuss any subject, it was designed to move off topic
conversation out of the main groups. Just because it's called off-topic is
no excuse for personal attacks, flamewars and abusive behaviour with respect
to the beliefs of others.
By the way, I won't reply to any posts made in response to this one; I
believe it's a waste of server space and bandwidth discussing this here.
The choice was made by the owner of the server, and since he's kindly
supplying us with this forum for POV-Ray, let's not abuse that privilege.
--
Lance.
http://come.to/the.zone
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"Lance Birch" <-> wrote :
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> Just because it's called off-topic is
> no excuse for personal attacks, flamewars and abusive behaviour with
respect
> to the beliefs of others.
Well, I guess some people couldn't help attacking Matt's personal
beliefs, it's an illness of some sort.
> By the way, I won't reply to any posts made in response to this one;
<chuckle> You always say that and you never follow it...
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