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From: Remco Poelstra
Subject: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 30 Jan 2001 16:00:23
Message: <3A772BA7.2060208@home.nl>
Hi,

I've made a website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters.
www.beryllium.net/~remco/polaroid/
It's based on an experiment I'm doing for physics together with a friend.
All images will be done in povray, but only the simple images (to
explain how it works) are done by me. For the cool images did I recieve
some sourcecode from TonyB and Tor Olav Kristenen.
The website isn't completed yet, since the experiment just started.

I hope some might get inspired and try this at home!

Please tell me whether you like the site or not and so on.

Remco Poelstra


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From: Josh English
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 30 Jan 2001 17:22:28
Message: <3A773EA3.A116EAA4@spiritone.com>
Remco Poelstra wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've made a website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters.
> www.beryllium.net/~remco/polaroid/
> It's based on an experiment I'm doing for physics together with a friend.
> All images will be done in povray, but only the simple images (to
> explain how it works) are done by me. For the cool images did I recieve
> some sourcecode from TonyB and Tor Olav Kristenen.
> The website isn't completed yet, since the experiment just started.
>
> I hope some might get inspired and try this at home!
>
> Please tell me whether you like the site or not and so on.
>
> Remco Poelstra

I have wanted to experiment with building special viewers that force both
eyes to look at two images at the same time, but I never got around to it. I
can't do the cross eyed technique myself, so I wanted to build a vieweing box
with a divider in the middle that seperates two images that would be rendered
like the green spiral on the site.

One thing that I would also like to know, and maybe this page will eventually
tell me, is if polarized images have to be projected onto a screen and
reflected, or could an image be printed onto polarized film and viewed in one
shot with polarized lenses for the eyes

--
Josh English -- Lexiphanic Lethomaniac
eng### [at] spiritonecom
The POV-Ray Cyclopedia http://www.spiritone.com/~english/cyclopedia/


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From: David Fontaine
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 30 Jan 2001 17:48:07
Message: <3A77449A.7066EAEE@faricy.net>
Remco Poelstra wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I've made a website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters.
> www.beryllium.net/~remco/polaroid/

This is how IMAX did those 3D movies. Those were sweet!

--
David Fontaine  <dav### [at] faricynet>  ICQ 55354965
My raytracing gallery:  http://davidf.faricy.net/


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From: Duncan Gray
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 30 Jan 2001 17:49:13
Message: <3a7744e9@news.povray.org>
Josh English wrote:
> I have wanted to experiment with building special viewers that force both
> eyes to look at two images at the same time, but I never got around to it.
I
> can't do the cross eyed technique myself, so I wanted to build a vieweing
box
> with a divider in the middle that seperates two images that would be
rendered
> like the green spiral on the site.

My Dad used to be a cartographer (drawer of maps), he had a pair of these
for looking at satellite photographs, the satellite returned long thin
pictures - north to south as I recall. On each orbit, the Earth rotates
slightly with respect to the satellite. By viewing the same object viewed
from two sequential orbits of the satellite, the terrain suddenly stands
out - mountains have height.

Anyway, the viewer looked neither complicated nor expensive, it was
basically a pair of glasses upside down - so they stand from the desk rather
than hanging from your ears. There was only a single lens in front of each
eye, and as far as I could tell, it seemed to be a simple magnifying glass.


--
Duncan Gray
(warning: may contain traces of nut)


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From: Remco Poelstra
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 31 Jan 2001 07:08:52
Message: <3A780096.3020006@home.nl>
Josh English wrote:


> One thing that I would also like to know, and maybe this page will eventually
> tell me, is if polarized images have to be projected onto a screen and
> reflected, or could an image be printed onto polarized film and viewed in one
> shot with polarized lenses for the eyes
> 

I really don't know yet, but I'll add something about it under the 
filters section, as soon as I've a little more knowledge about the 
physical workings of the filters.

Remco


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From: Harold Baize
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:14:03
Message: <3a7855eb@news.povray.org>
Josh,

In the 1940's Polaroid corporation developed just such a single film
polarized stereoimage process. It was called Vectograph. They
planned to make 3D movies using the film, but the 1950's 3D movie
boom came and went too quickly and Polaroid made more money
with instant photography than they did from the source of their
name "Polaroid" filters for 3D viewing. Ironic that the company
that made 3D movie projection possible no longer does anything
3D but still use the name. Polaroid sold it's polarizing division to
3M about 2 years ago.

Today there is an expensive ink jet based print process that is
very similar to the Vectograph, it is called StereoJet.

http://www.sfimaging.com/Stereojet.html

Harolddd
(A long time stereoscopic image nut)

> One thing that I would also like to know, and maybe this page will
eventually
> tell me, is if polarized images have to be projected onto a screen and
> reflected, or could an image be printed onto polarized film and viewed in
one
> shot with polarized lenses for the eyes
>


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From: Harold Baize
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 31 Jan 2001 13:18:47
Message: <3a785707$1@news.povray.org>
Remco,

Thank you for the web page. I have been making and projecting
stereoscopic images from POV-Ray for years. I use a vintage
(1949) TDC Vivid stereoscopic slide projector. One thing you
should know is that, since the late 1930's, the standard orientation
for the polarizing filters is opposing 45 degree angles..  / \, not -- |.
To learn more about 3D projection and the history of 3D look up
the book "Amazing 3-D" by Hal Morgan and Dan Summers
(Little, Brown 1982).

Harolddd
(long time stereoscopic 3-D enthusiast)
"Remco Poelstra" <rjp### [at] homenl> wrote in message
news:3A7### [at] homenl...
> Hi,
>
> I've made a website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters.
> www.beryllium.net/~remco/polaroid/
> It's based on an experiment I'm doing for physics together with a friend.
> All images will be done in povray, but only the simple images (to
> explain how it works) are done by me. For the cool images did I recieve
> some sourcecode from TonyB and Tor Olav Kristenen.
> The website isn't completed yet, since the experiment just started.
>
> I hope some might get inspired and try this at home!
>
> Please tell me whether you like the site or not and so on.
>
> Remco Poelstra
>


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From: Remco Poelstra
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 1 Feb 2001 11:49:46
Message: <3A7993C9.9030203@home.nl>
Harold Baize wrote:

> Remco,
> 
> Thank you for the web page. I have been making and projecting
> stereoscopic images from POV-Ray for years. I use a vintage
> (1949) TDC Vivid stereoscopic slide projector.

Can you tell me more about that projector?

> One thing you
> should know is that, since the late 1930's, the standard orientation
> for the polarizing filters is opposing 45 degree angles..  / \, not -- |.

Do you know why or can I find that in that book?
Thanks for the information,

Remco Poelstra


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From: Harold Baize
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 1 Feb 2001 14:51:21
Message: <3a79be39$1@news.povray.org>
The TDC 116 stereo slide projector was made to show 3D slides
in the "Realist" format. This was a 3D slide format that started
with the Stereo Realist camera that was introduced in 1947.
They were very popular in the early 1950's and there are still
thousands of them available and they still work. I have about a
dozen of these old cameras and I love them. They can be bought
on eBay for about $150.

You can see a TDC 116 3D projector at this eBay auction:
http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1210371798

I don't know where you can buy the book "Amazing 3-D" except that
it sometimes shows up on eBay. To learn more about stereoscopic
photography follow the links at my web sites:

http://www.3dculture.com

Harolddd


"Remco Poelstra" <rjp### [at] homenl> wrote in message
news:3A7### [at] homenl...
> Harold Baize wrote:
>
> > Remco,
> >
> > Thank you for the web page. I have been making and projecting
> > stereoscopic images from POV-Ray for years. I use a vintage
> > (1949) TDC Vivid stereoscopic slide projector.
>
> Can you tell me more about that projector?
>
> > One thing you
> > should know is that, since the late 1930's, the standard orientation
> > for the polarizing filters is opposing 45 degree angles..  / \, not --
|.
>
> Do you know why or can I find that in that book?
> Thanks for the information,
>
> Remco Poelstra
>


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From: Jong
Subject: Re: Website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters
Date: 11 Oct 2002 06:21:30
Message: <3da6a62a$1@news.povray.org>
Dear Remco,

 I'd like to visit your site at the beryllium.net for polarizing filter use.
I could not connect to the site you gave. I'll appreciate it if you could
guide me to your site(or your new site).

Jong
"Remco Poelstra" <rjp### [at] homenl> wrote in message
news:3A7### [at] homenl...
> Hi,
>
> I've made a website about viewing 3D images with polarizing filters.
> www.beryllium.net/~remco/polaroid/
> It's based on an experiment I'm doing for physics together with a friend.
> All images will be done in povray, but only the simple images (to
> explain how it works) are done by me. For the cool images did I recieve
> some sourcecode from TonyB and Tor Olav Kristenen.
> The website isn't completed yet, since the experiment just started.
>
> I hope some might get inspired and try this at home!
>
> Please tell me whether you like the site or not and so on.
>
> Remco Poelstra
>


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