Warp wrote:

> Mick Hazelgrove <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote:
> : I want to make links, on my web page to other web pages, open in new
> : windows.
>
>   Please don't. Please.

Curious.  Why not?

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> a little button following it be the "new window with page" link. 

Not a bad idea. Although I usually just right click the link and select
"Open Link in New Window" if that's what I want.

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Brandan Whearty <ema### [at] domaincom> wrote:
: Curious.  Why not?

  It's extremely annoying that the page does something I don't want it to do.
I don't want it to trash my screen by opening new windows. I have reserved
certain space on the screen for the application and it should confine itself
in there.
  If I want to open the new page in a new window, I can do it myself. I don't
need the page itself to do it for me.

  There's also a very annoying feeling of self-confidence of the author
of the page when he does this. It's like he was saying "this page is so
good that you really don't want to leave, so I'll just open the new link
in a new window for you so you don't have to bother".
  Why should the author of the page decide what I want or don't want to do?
I can decide for myself, thanks.

  The worst think about this is that you can't disable this feature (at
least not in Netscape). This is the most irritating thing about it.

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Failure to use <target="_blank">  and/or right click to new window causes me
trouble with:
1) Password protected sites like Geocities' HTML editor, where use of the
"back" button gives a  "Data missing : post error"
message. I lost my whole first draft of my boids page this way.
2) Just about every site with a frame.
I am appreciative when link pages open OTHER sites in new windows, too.

The following are annoying:
1) Splash pages. How idiotic.  Would Yahoo have survived if every time I
went there I saw a 65 kb image which said "You're at Yahoo!" ?
2) Over use of new windows WITHIN one site.


Chris Huff wrote:

> In article <39fa9d18@news.povray.org>, "Mick Hazelgrove"
> <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote:
>
> > I hadn't realised how much people hate new windows appearing for
> > links. I rather like it as I don't lose contact with the parent site.
> > however there is always the back button.
> >
> > I was intending to do something similar to David Fontaine's virtual
> > gallery.
> >
> > Given the antipathy to the idea I don't think I'll bother.
>
> I actually prefer link pages that open other sites in new windows.
> One solution would be to offer pairs of links, a "Go to page" and a "New
> window with page" link. Have the URL text be the "go to page" link, and
> a little button following it be the "new window with page" link.
> Compact, and it should please everyone...this is what I plan to do when
> I get around to rebuilding my site.
>
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On 30 Oct 2000 04:39:10 -0500, Warp wrote:

>  The worst think about this is that you can't disable this feature (at
>least not in Netscape). This is the most irritating thing about it.

Also annoying is the fact that the back button in a newly opened window
doesn't work, or should I say doesn't take you back to the page that 
you came from, having to close the new window breaks the surfing 
flow. 
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"Mick Hazelgrove" <mic### [at] mhazelgrovefsnetcouk> wrote in message
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> I want to make links, on my web page to other web pages, open in new
> windows. Can any one help with code, links etc.

    Just as a vote, I prefer a new page when you are sending me somewhere
else, when you are just giving me a small bit of info in text (tool tip
like) or when you are giving me an image or diagram as an addendum to your
text. That way I can send it to the back while it loads and continue reading
your text.

    There are ways to disable resize and toolbars so that they don't get out
of hand.

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Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     Just as a vote, I prefer a new page when you are sending me somewhere
> else, when you are just giving me a small bit of info in text (tool tip
> like) or when you are giving me an image or diagram as an addendum to your
> text. That way I can send it to the back while it loads and continue reading
> your text.
>
>     There are ways to disable resize and toolbars so that they don't get out
> of hand.

Of course, toolbar=0, resizable=0, location=0...

I love how javascript is so intuitive!

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In article <slr### [at] zero-ppslocaldomain>, 
ste### [at] zeroppsuklinuxnet wrote:

> Also annoying is the fact that the back button in a newly opened window
> doesn't work, or should I say doesn't take you back to the page that 
> you came from, having to close the new window breaks the surfing 
> flow.

The back button works in new windows in iCab...this is more a common 
browser flaw, not a site design issue. I suggest you submit a feature 
request to the makers of your favorite browser... :-)

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On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:11:27 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
>hmm, how about a bit of javascript form to give the users a preferred
>setting (same window or new). Default to same window. Could even save the
>choice as a cookie?

No, don't use javascript unless it's necessary.  Lynx can handle frames and
new windows, but it can't handle javas*t.

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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 27 Oct 2000 21:11:27 +0100, Tom Melly wrote:
> >hmm, how about a bit of javascript form to give the users a preferred
> >setting (same window or new). Default to same window. Could even save the
> >choice as a cookie?
>
> No, don't use javascript unless it's necessary.  Lynx can handle frames
and
> new windows, but it can't handle javas*t.
>

Hmm, you're right - I was thinking that the javascript could work alongside
standard html, by over-riding the target (which would leave a default for
non-javascript browsers). However, that can't be done. You could still work
around it using no script tags, but it would mean twice as much coding for
each link.

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