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On 22 Jun 2000 11:34:30 -0400, ron### [at] povray org (Ron Parker)
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>I finally got it figured out. I now have word indexes of all of the
>newsgroups on this server, including articles on off-topic that are long
>gone. The collection is 18 megs, zipped (about 50 megs, unzipped) and
>current as of 2 AM EST yesterday morning. I still have to figure out how
>to do incremental updates, but that doesn't look too hard.
>
>Now... what do I do with them?
Make some stats. Top posters, top repliers, average response time,
longest thread, top posters in the five longest threads etc., whatever
comes to mind.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:24:38 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
>Make some stats. Top posters, top repliers, average response time,
>longest thread, top posters in the five longest threads etc., whatever
>comes to mind.
It's not that kind of an index. It's the kind where you can say "show
me all articles that contained the word ambidextrous and the word lunatic
in the povray.off-topic newsgroup."
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
news:slr### [at] linuxparkerrfwicom...
| On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:24:38 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
| >Make some stats. Top posters, top repliers, average response time,
| >longest thread, top posters in the five longest threads etc., whatever
| >comes to mind.
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| It's not that kind of an index. It's the kind where you can say "show
| me all articles that contained the word ambidextrous and the word lunatic
| in the povray.off-topic newsgroup."
Most of them, eh?
I'd like to see a sorting based on what I'm thinking at the moment. Not gonna
happen.
Bob
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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[cut]
> (following up to myself)
>
> I finally got it figured out. I now have word indexes of all of the
> newsgroups on this server, including articles on off-topic that are long
> gone. The collection is 18 megs, zipped (about 50 megs, unzipped) and
> current as of 2 AM EST yesterday morning. I still have to figure out how
> to do incremental updates, but that doesn't look too hard.
>
> Now... what do I do with them? I don't know of any free web hosts that
> allow custom CGI and will let me host 50 megs of indexes plus the swish-e
> executable. Any suggestions? I have DSL, but it's only 128kb upstream
> and my ISP doesn't let me run a server, so I'm stuck with external
> solutions. For the best results, I'd also have to have a database of
> names, dates, subjects, and messageIDs so I could look up info on the
> results without having to hit the news server. That's easy enough to
> build, but it'd take up lots of space too.
Do you know if the index file is in some kind of standard format (like *.mdb
or .dbf). It may be possible to write a Client-Server java application that
would run on your machine (don't know if it could take the load though) to
process queries that the client side java code on the loaded page could
transmit. I don't know enough about the java database stuff to know how
easy it would be to do this. I could write some code in Delphi that would
do it, but that would mean that an .exe would have to be downloaded for
people to run on the client-side. Delphi would necessitate a known database
format which is why I asked that originally. This is not a very good
solution I must admit, but the only one that comes to mind.
Lee
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On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:49:44 -0700, Lee Brown wrote:
>Do you know if the index file is in some kind of standard format (like *.mdb
>or .dbf). It may be possible to write a Client-Server java application that
>would run on your machine (don't know if it could take the load though) to
>process queries that the client side java code on the loaded page could
>transmit. I don't know enough about the java database stuff to know how
>easy it would be to do this. I could write some code in Delphi that would
>do it, but that would mean that an .exe would have to be downloaded for
>people to run on the client-side. Delphi would necessitate a known database
>format which is why I asked that originally. This is not a very good
>solution I must admit, but the only one that comes to mind.
Interesting definition of standard you have there. No, the index file is in
swish-e format, because that's what I indexed it with. Server-side code would
have to run on Linux, and client-side would have to be sufficiently portable
to run on, at the very least, Linux, BSD, Windows, MacOS, and BeOS. I'd
rather make it work in a web browser.
Part of the problem is that I don't want to run the server locally, because
I have limited bandwidth available.
Fortunately, a solution may have presented itself. I just need to work out
the details.
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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On 22 Jun 2000 19:15:17 -0400, ron### [at] povrayorg (Ron Parker)
wrote:
>On Fri, 23 Jun 2000 01:24:38 +0300, Peter Popov wrote:
>>Make some stats. Top posters, top repliers, average response time,
>>longest thread, top posters in the five longest threads etc., whatever
>>comes to mind.
>
>It's not that kind of an index. It's the kind where you can say "show
>me all articles that contained the word ambidextrous and the word lunatic
>in the povray.off-topic newsgroup."
Wellll, maybe if the system works glitchlessly you can hand it to
Chris and let him decide where and how to use it on povray.org.
Peter Popov ICQ : 15002700
Personal e-mail : pet### [at] usanet
TAG e-mail : pet### [at] tagpovrayorg
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"Ron Parker" <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 22 Jun 2000 23:49:44 -0700, Lee Brown wrote:
> >Do you know if the index file is in some kind of standard format (like
*.mdb
> >or .dbf). It may be possible to write a Client-Server java application
that
> >would run on your machine (don't know if it could take the load though)
to
> >process queries that the client side java code on the loaded page could
> >transmit. I don't know enough about the java database stuff to know how
> >easy it would be to do this. I could write some code in Delphi that
would
> >do it, but that would mean that an .exe would have to be downloaded for
> >people to run on the client-side. Delphi would necessitate a known
database
> >format which is why I asked that originally. This is not a very good
> >solution I must admit, but the only one that comes to mind.
> Interesting definition of standard you have there.
Just throwing a couple of examples out, didn't want to make a stupidly large
list.
> No, the index file is in
> swish-e format, because that's what I indexed it with.
Proprietary I'm guessing?
> Server-side code would
> have to run on Linux, and client-side would have to be sufficiently
portable
> to run on, at the very least, Linux, BSD, Windows, MacOS, and BeOS. I'd
> rather make it work in a web browser.
Java would be fine for that. But like I said before, not a very good
solution all round, just something that I happened to think of.
> Part of the problem is that I don't want to run the server locally,
because
> I have limited bandwidth available.
That an issue that I wondered about.
> Fortunately, a solution may have presented itself. I just need to work
out
> the details.
Great. This would certainly be a huge enhancement to the Pov-Ray site.
Regards,
Lee
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Ron Parker <ron### [at] povrayorg> wrote in message
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[news.povray.org article searching]
The easiest way I can think of is to replicate what a newsadmin can
do by grepping the news spool directly. It would have to run on povray,
be very, very secure and most likely be a perl script. Does away with need
index collection, etc. Public interface would be hard part and did I mention
that extraordinary care must be taken securing the tool?
OutlookExpress lets me search subject lines and body text limited by what
I am willing to store locally. Being able to grep would be nice -
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On Sun, 25 Jun 2000 12:48:54 -0700, pan### [at] syixcom wrote:
>[news.povray.org article searching]
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>The easiest way I can think of is to replicate what a newsadmin can
>do by grepping the news spool directly. It would have to run on povray,
>be very, very secure and most likely be a perl script. Does away with need
>index collection, etc.
A grep of my local copy of the entire news spool takes several minutes
even for the small groups. I don't like to think about grepping .general
and .binaries.images. Using the indexes, it takes no more than a second
or two. That's why I have the indexes.
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Ron Parker http://www2.fwi.com/~parkerr/traces.html
My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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On Sat, 24 Jun 2000 22:47:53 -0700, Lee Brown wrote:
>> No, the index file is in
>> swish-e format, because that's what I indexed it with.
>Proprietary I'm guessing?
Open-source, actually. Just optimized for word indexing in a way that
a generic database file probably can't be.
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My opinions. Mine. Not anyone else's.
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