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From: Paul Brown
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 19 Sep 1999 19:11:57
Message: <37e56dbd@news.povray.org>
>
> >Here's the news: The DFPU may be melted together with 'The World of
POV-Ray
> >Users'! I asked Bob Hughes about it and he seemed to like the idea.
Great!
>
>
> I like it... go on...
>
> >So the form will include names, age and gender, country and possible
state,
> >latitude and longitude.
>
> Province, in case state does not apply; link to webpage; current

For us POVers in the U.K. and elsewhere how about "County"

>
> "...I am a POVer, and this is my manifesto..." =)
>
>


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 19 Sep 1999 20:46:15
Message: <37e583d7@news.povray.org>
Well, it's very American to make fun of odd little words like "pud"
(though I somehow don't think we have a monopoly on that affliction. A
potato is a spud, and pud might sound like mud, how's that for a
start?  Actually I wasn't trying to mean PUD wouldn't be fine, but see
what happens?  Anyhow, I like Tony's suggestion to just spell it out
but DFPU is interesting because it seems like Double Floating Point
Unit (whatever).
For personal info guess it should be two fold, actual personal info
and also things relating to POV-Ray.
I have a list of IMP (www.imp.org) members and more on the way so
that's one thing to consider. How about Photo ID type of thing. Sort
of a passports to POV?

Bob

Paul Brown <pau### [at] pabcomfreeservecouk> wrote in message
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>
> >
> > >Here's the news: The DFPU may be melted together with 'The World
of
> POV-Ray
> > >Users'! I asked Bob Hughes about it and he seemed to like the
idea.
> Great!
> >
> >
> > I like it... go on...
> >
> > >So the form will include names, age and gender, country and
possible
> state,
> > >latitude and longitude.
> >
> > Province, in case state does not apply; link to webpage; current
>
> For us POVers in the U.K. and elsewhere how about "County"
>
> >
> > "...I am a POVer, and this is my manifesto..." =)
> >
> >
>
>


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From: Lutz Kretzschmar
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 20 Sep 1999 16:44:37
Message: <37e613ea.14301424@194.174.214.110>
Hi Rune S. Johansen, you recently wrote in povray.general:

> So the form will include names, age and gender, country and possible state,
> latitude and longitude.
Why not include city or town (or village)? Makes it easy to find
people near me.
 
- Lutz
  email : lut### [at] stmuccom
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From: Mark Wagner
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 22 Sep 1999 01:16:29
Message: <37e8662d@news.povray.org>
Lutz Kretzschmar wrote in message <37e613ea.14301424@194.174.214.110>...
>Hi Rune S. Johansen, you recently wrote in povray.general:
>
>> So the form will include names, age and gender, country and possible
state,
>> latitude and longitude.
>Why not include city or town (or village)? Makes it easy to find
>people near me.


How about country, state/county/district/whatever, and nearest major city?

Mark


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From: Rune S  Johansen
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 23 Sep 1999 16:23:38
Message: <37ea8c4a@news.povray.org>
Mark Wagner wrote:

>>Rune S. Johansen, wrote:
>>
>>> So the form will include names, age and gender,
>>> country and possible state, latitude and longitude.
>>
>>Why not include city or town (or village)? Makes it
>>easy to find people near me.
>
>How about country, state/county/district/whatever, and
>nearest major city?

I'm trying to work out a method that works for all contries.

It would be a great help if you all could show me previews
of what complete addresses look like in different countries.

In Denmark it's like this:

[Name]
[Street] [Number]
[Postal code] [postal district]
[Country]

[Postal code] is a 4 digit number which is always attached
to a postal district

[Postal district] can be a village, for example "Silkeborg",
or a part of a town, for example "Esbjerg N." for the North
part of Esbjerg. It can also be a tiny island for example
"Anholt".

So what's it like where you live?

I thought of including this in the POV-Ray User-Base form:

Country,
Nearest major city,
Postal district,
Postal code/zip code,
latitude and longitude.

Wouldn't that be sufficient? Would it work for all countries?

BTW, I'm sorry I haven't replied to all the messages.
I don't have as much time as I wish I had.

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

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From: Jerome M  BERGER
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 23 Sep 1999 17:15:18
Message: <37EA9859.6973F098@enst.fr>
"Rune S. Johansen" wrote:
> 
> It would be a great help if you all could show me previews
> of what complete addresses look like in different countries.
> 

In France, we have:
[Name]
[Number], [Street]
[Postal code] [City] [Country]

(Of course, mine doesn't conform, it would be too easy :) it goes like:
[Name]
[Appt #] [House Name]
[Postal code] [City] [Country]
)

		Jerome

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From: Ken
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 23 Sep 1999 20:23:00
Message: <37EAC3DA.A0EF86A2@pacbell.net>
I think you are getting a little too detailed. For my own part I will
tell you my:

   Name: Ken Tyler
    Age: 41
    Sex: Yes
   City: Tustin
  State: California
Country: USA

  I will not provide a street address, zip code, or phone home number. I
consider that a form of protection against several potential undesirable
scenarios that don't need to be gone into in any detail here. I like the
anonymity of the internet and prefer to keep it that way.

-- 
Ken Tyler

See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 24 Sep 1999 00:53:57
Message: <37eb03e5@news.povray.org>
He didn't suggest phone number, only street address number I think.
It may be relevent for some people to include every detail but like
Ken says internet privacy would be invaded.  I could only see it
feasible to collect and redistribute to each participant that kind of
personal info and email isn't secure stuff.  As it is with locations
down to within a mile via regular map coordinates is going to be
accurate enough to locate someone by name from there.  Already not a
totaly carefree option, again especially not over the internet.

PS  Ken's format of US info is same here in another state of US
although I could see where zip code would be a viable addition
(12345-1234 format here).

Bob

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
news:37EAC3DA.A0EF86A2@pacbell.net...
>
>  I think you are getting a little too detailed. For my own part I
will
> tell you my:
>
>    Name: Ken Tyler
>     Age: 41
>     Sex: Yes
>    City: Tustin
>   State: California
> Country: USA
>
>   I will not provide a street address, zip code, or phone home
number. I
> consider that a form of protection against several potential
undesirable
> scenarios that don't need to be gone into in any detail here. I like
the
> anonymity of the internet and prefer to keep it that way.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler
>
> See my 1000+ Povray and 3D Rendering and Raytracing Links at:
> http://home.pacbell.net/tylereng/index.html


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From: Rune S  Johansen
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:13:40
Message: <37ebe984@news.povray.org>
Ken wrote:
> I think you are getting a little too detailed. For my own part I will
>tell you my:
>
>   Name: Ken Tyler
>    Age: 41
>    Sex: Yes
>   City: Tustin
>  State: California
>Country: USA
>
>  I will not provide a street address, zip code, or phone home number. I
>consider that a form of protection against several potential undesirable
>scenarios that don't need to be gone into in any detail here. I like the
>anonymity of the internet and prefer to keep it that way.

Sorry, I've expressed myself unclear.

I won't include information about street, street number, and phone number in
the form at all.
The reason I asked for whole address formats was just so I could increase my
knowledge about how addresses and thus locations are written in different
parts of the world.

Also, The user don't have to include their real name, but can write a nick
name, initials, or anything they want.

However, I think e-mail address should be obligatory, but then *all* other
fields should be optional. What do you think of that? To avoid spam it could
be written like: user "at" provider.com
Wouldn't that work?

So, I still think the following fields would be sufficient for describing
locations:

Country,
Nearest major city,
Postal district,
Postal code/zip code,
latitude and longitude.

But maybe a field "town" should be added so one could be more detailed than
"nearest major city" but less detailed than "zip code/postal code" and
"postal district".

There could also be a "state" field for people living in the USA only.

Keep in mind that all fields should be optional.

Please keep the discussion going!

Greetings,

Rune S. Johansen

---
Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: Database For POV-Ray Users...
Date: 24 Sep 1999 23:52:51
Message: <37ec4713@news.povray.org>
With Lat/Lon provided you really need nothing else of the more refined
place names/numbers anyhow.  Country, State or Province (whatever the
major subcategory is), nearest town or city should be adequate then.
Duplicate town names might exist within a certain region but with Lat
and Lon it's clear as to where each is. County and district type thing
has been suggested but it's a matter of common person to person
description whereas the numerical things are more of a computer input
I guess you could say.
Concentration on the web page which people might have, email
addresses, and a biography (birthdate/birthplace/family/job/hobbies)
seems a priority after Lat/Lon and place names as has been said.
Using non-direct emails doesn't sound too good.  If you can click on a
email link on anyones web page then why not also there too.
Can you manage a web page having editable entries which then get
posted up as they change? Not sure if that means having a cgi or java
to be able to do that if so.
Well, you asked to keep talking  ; )

Bob

Rune S. Johansen <run### [at] inamecom> wrote in message
news:37ebe984@news.povray.org...
> I won't include information about street, street number, and phone
number in
> the form at all.
> The reason I asked for whole address formats was just so I could
increase my
> knowledge about how addresses and thus locations are written in
different
> parts of the world.
>
> Also, The user don't have to include their real name, but can write
a nick
> name, initials, or anything they want.
>
> However, I think e-mail address should be obligatory, but then *all*
other
> fields should be optional. What do you think of that? To avoid spam
it could
> be written like: user "at" provider.com
> Wouldn't that work?
>
> So, I still think the following fields would be sufficient for
describing
> locations:
>
> Country,
> Nearest major city,
> Postal district,
> Postal code/zip code,
> latitude and longitude.
>
> But maybe a field "town" should be added so one could be more
detailed than
> "nearest major city" but less detailed than "zip code/postal code"
and
> "postal district".
>
> There could also be a "state" field for people living in the USA
only.
>
> Keep in mind that all fields should be optional.
>
> Please keep the discussion going!
>
> Greetings,
>
> Rune S. Johansen
>
> ---
> Visit The RSJ Website at http://rsj.mobilixnet.dk
> for all my 3D images, stereograms, tutorials,
> The POV Desktop Theme, 350+ raytracing jokes,
> miscellaneous other things, and a lot of fun!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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