On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:14:15 -0500, Larry Fontaine <lfo### [at] isdnet>
wrote:

>Earth. I don't know where THEY were from, though. I'm from Minneapolis. And there's
>certainly cities that have much more pollution than Minneapolis. Like Mexico City,
where
>the sky is always gray.

You should come and see Sofia from the top of Vitosha mtn. Err, try to
see it, that is, if you can penetrate the smog. The real fun begins
when we have one of those thermal inversion thingies and all the crap
falls upon the city. Argh, cough, cough, eek! Ten years ago, while the
Kremikovtzi plant was still fully functioning, Sofia was the fourth
most polluted city in the world. And to think I've spent my whole life
here...


Peter Popov
ICQ: 15002700

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Think maybe you heard me tell this before but I'll tell it again.
When our family moved from the sunny coast of Florida to Seattle, WA.
when I was a kid, we drove by Los Angeles to get to Disney Land (we
left FL just before opening of Disney World) and I swear the sky was a
green color. All the way across the country and I had never seen
anything like it.  Seattle grew into much more of a city while I lived
there but was never anything like that.

Bob

Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote in message
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> I have lived in Southern California most of my life where smog is a
way of
> life in the inland cities (most of my time fortunately has been near
the
> coast) and I can relate to that comment. One could say that you can
take
> it for granted that the air is mostly bad. I once rendered a scene
looking
> out my window north towards Los Angeles and got the colors and look
of the
> sky perfect. It looked so unbelievable I scraped the idea and went
for an
> ideal sky instead because I felt no one here would accept the sky I
portrayed
> as "real". It's sad that the sky I live under is so boring and
unreal looking
> that no one from elsewhere would find it interesting or believable
to look
> at in my 3D work.

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Ken, If you get a chance to take a break, go/come to Alaska.
The skies maybe cloudy but almost _never_  gray, brown, green
or other unique colors. Well, except for the time that volcano want off.....

Mr. Art

Ken wrote:

>

<snip>

>  I once rendered a scene looking
> out my window north towards Los Angeles and got the colors and look of the
> sky perfect. It looked so unbelievable I scraped the idea and went for an
> ideal sky instead because I felt no one here would accept the sky I portrayed
> as "real". It's sad that the sky I live under is so boring and unreal looking
> that no one from elsewhere would find it interesting or believable to look
> at in my 3D work.
>
> --
> Ken Tyler

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"Mr. Art" wrote:
> 
> Ken, If you get a chance to take a break, go/come to Alaska.
> The skies maybe cloudy but almost _never_  gray, brown, green
> or other unique colors. Well, except for the time that volcano want off.....
> 
> Mr. Art

  I have visited Alaska for three weeks in the month of August. The sky there
was if anything too perfect except for perhaps two days of drizzle during the
middle of the trip. I also lived in Colorado for 4 years which in my opinion
had similar skies as those in Alaska save for the northern lights you all get
up there that away.
  Here in So. Cal near the coast when we don't have brown smoggy skies we have
nearly white skies because of coastal haze and blue skies are a rare luxury. To
see blue you have to look nearly straight up because the horizon is always hazy.
The native American indians who inhabited the land here before the European
invasion called this the "valley of the smokes" because of the continuous haziness
of the skies here. Automobiles just changed the color of it but not the texture.
  The only exception to the cloudy sky scenario is just after a major storm
system passes through and we have a strong onshore flow of air. Occasionally the
famed Santa Ana winds that blow in from the deserts will blow the smog and haze
out to sea but usually there is a dust haze associated with this event so it
cannot be relied upon to cure the haziness problem we live with here.
  Regardless living here makes for very boring skies when rendered in all but
the most rare cases.

  I do recall though that one of the penalties with living in Alaska were all
of them pesky mosquitoes and noseeums that get at your skin no matter how well
protected you think you are.


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LOL, yes, I know the feeling...

Wouldn't it be good just to buy a business name and start a web design
company?  Oh wait, that's what I'm doing...

And they say I'm not motivated!  Sheesh...

--
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Better still, once you're at school you get accused of hacking and mouthed
off at by teachers!!!  :O

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Larry Fontaine wrote in message <37D5B133.7A12D6A7@isd.net>...
>> We were taught that I is defined as sqrt(-1) because I^2 = -1.  After
all,
>> it all works doesn't it?  :)  Anyway, gotta run, I've got school...
>> (MUMBLEMUMBLE)
>
>Doesn't school suck? I know APUSH really sucks.
>Wouldn't it be a miracle if they could make a cough syrup that lasts even
half
>the length of time between doses? Damn dry hack. I swear, I like pulled a
>muscle in a fit of coughing. And I'm sure the inch-thick layer of dust in
the
>school doesn't help, but you know how they're all like Come to school
unless
>you're on your death bed!
>
>

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I know!  Move to Hervey Bay!  8)

That's what we can do!!!  Every POVer out there can move to Hervey Bay and
you can all stay at my house!!!  8)

The air's clean, the sky is the deepest, richest of blues, and every
afternoon and morning there is a raytraced sunset scene over the crystal
waters of the bay!

COME ON OVER!!!  :)

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Larry Fontaine wrote in message <37D5D487.903B0607@isd.net>...
>Kevin Wampler wrote:
>
>> Larry Fontaine wrote:
>>
>> > My mom says she's heard of people who cracked a rib coughind so
violently. I hear all
>> > the respiratory junk nowadays comes from city pollution. Who do I sue?
>>
>> Wow, where do you live that has such a problem with pollution?
>
>Earth. I don't know where THEY were from, though. I'm from Minneapolis. And
there's
>certainly cities that have much more pollution than Minneapolis. Like
Mexico City, where
>the sky is always gray.
>
>

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>when we have one of those thermal inversion thingies and all the crap
>falls upon the city. Argh, cough, cough, eek! Ten years ago, while the

You wouldn't beleive how much I cracked up laughing (and still am) when I
read that...



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Peter Popov wrote in message ...
>On Tue, 07 Sep 1999 22:14:15 -0500, Larry Fontaine <lfo### [at] isdnet>
>wrote:
>
>>Earth. I don't know where THEY were from, though. I'm from Minneapolis.
And there's
>>certainly cities that have much more pollution than Minneapolis. Like
Mexico City, where
>>the sky is always gray.
>
>You should come and see Sofia from the top of Vitosha mtn. Err, try to
>see it, that is, if you can penetrate the smog. The real fun begins
>when we have one of those thermal inversion thingies and all the crap
>falls upon the city. Argh, cough, cough, eek! Ten years ago, while the
>Kremikovtzi plant was still fully functioning, Sofia was the fourth
>most polluted city in the world. And to think I've spent my whole life
>here...
>
>
>Peter Popov
>ICQ: 15002700

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>afternoon and morning there is a raytraced sunset

Well... *ahem* not a sunset in the morning... LOL

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Lance.

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You know what's even better?  When you can't breathe through your nose... at
all...

*MUMBLEMUMBLEDAMNPERMANENTLYINFLAMEDNASILPASSAGESMUMBLEMUMBLE*

Ever tried to breathe under water?  It's not possible, trust me.

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Larry Fontaine wrote in message <37D5B173.C80FFB23@isd.net>...
>Ah, that's it... more ice packs...
>

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Lance Birch wrote:
> Ever tried to breathe under water?  It's not possible, trust me.

In the words of Fry from Futurama, (Speaking to a black market
organ transplant con man...)

"Gills, huh? Now that you mention it, I DO have trouble breathing
underwater sometimes..."

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