Hi people. I just saw Episode I yesterday. It just arrived in Panama.
Long wait... but worth it. =) Great graphics, and ok storyline (nice
plot twists). I really hated the look of Jar-Jar. Too plastic, too
bright. They made other things look real, why couldn't they get him
right? Anyway, just a quick note.

The hallway is progressing nicely thanks to your suggestions. What kind
of bolts hold corrugated iron together and how? The spherical ones
(rounded top) or the hexagon ones? I've never really seen this, so I'm
making it up for now. Is it customary to use several square plates, or
is it just cut to the appropriate size? I want this thing to be
structurally correct. Help me, 'Ken'obi...

PS: I have posted a sample image.

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TonyB wrote:
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> Hi people. I just saw Episode I yesterday. It just arrived in Panama.
> Long wait... but worth it. =) Great graphics, and ok storyline (nice
> plot twists). I really hated the look of Jar-Jar. Too plastic, too
> bright. They made other things look real, why couldn't they get him
> right? Anyway, just a quick note.

  I haven't seen it yet myself and will probably wait for it to come out
on cable in a year or two.
 
> The hallway is progressing nicely thanks to your suggestions. What kind
> of bolts hold corrugated iron together and how? The spherical ones
> (rounded top) or the hexagon ones? I've never really seen this, so I'm
> making it up for now. Is it customary to use several square plates, or
> is it just cut to the appropriate size? I want this thing to be
> structurally correct. Help me, 'Ken'obi...

  The corrugated metal you are referring to is commonly referred to as
chicken foot deck plate or just deck plate for short. In all but a few
cases it is welded together rather than held using bolts. If and when
bolts are used they would in all likelihood be the type referred to as
stove bolts which are the type with the smooth round head, a 1/4" square
shaft immediately below the head going to round, and ultimately threaded
at the oppopsite end. I would stick with the welded look for realism.
The deck plates are generally sold in 4 x 8 ft. sheets and used in full
sheets or cut with a cutting torch or nibbling tool to fit the space and
design needs of the situation.
  I think the one problem I do see with the scene you posted is the height
of the hand rails. They are fine for very short people but someone taller
could trip over the ones you have in the posted image. It may be a problem
with perspective that leads me to this conclusion because there is nothing
around it to give it a sense of scale.

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>   I haven't seen it yet myself and will probably wait for it to come out
> on cable in a year or two.

Wow. The Force is unusually strong in you, Kenobi. I couldn't find any reason
not to go. I guess your trying to save money? You're not thinking of buy 3d
studio, are you? You wouldn't betray us, would you? ;)

>   The corrugated metal you are referring to is commonly referred to as
> chicken foot deck plate or just deck plate for short. In all but a few
> cases it is welded together rather than held using bolts. If and when
> bolts are used they would in all likelihood be the type referred to as
> stove bolts which are the type with the smooth round head, a 1/4" square
> shaft immediately below the head going to round, and ultimately threaded
> at the oppopsite end. I would stick with the welded look for realism.
> The deck plates are generally sold in 4 x 8 ft. sheets and used in full
> sheets or cut with a cutting torch or nibbling tool to fit the space and
> design needs of the situation.

Fascinating. And now I know. Thank you for explaining all this. So I am
working with a 'deck plate' available in 4x8 'sheets' that should be 'welded'.
(That's way too many technical terms for me. jk) I think I know how to do the
welded look. Thanks for the idea.

>   I think the one problem I do see with the scene you posted is the height
> of the hand rails. They are fine for very short people but someone taller
> could trip over the ones you have in the posted image. It may be a problem
> with perspective that leads me to this conclusion because there is nothing
> around it to give it a sense of scale.

I thought they were fine for everybody. The idea of having a double rail is
for the tall people to use the top bar, and the little people to use the lower
bar. You're right about the scale thing. I really need to start working with
feet or meters. I've just been typing in numbers until I feel it looks right.
Maybe I should put some element like a tool or something in there. But, wait!
The bumps on the deck plate, can't they be used to give an idea of scale? Or
do they come in assorted sizes?

Thank you.

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On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:39:47 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:

>  I haven't seen it yet myself and will probably wait for it to come out
>on cable in a year or two.

  Hi, Ken. If you can possibly find the time to see "The Phantom Menace"
during a weekday matinee (no lines, cheap ticket prices) you will be seeing
the movie the way it is meant to be seen. No television can do justice to
the work that went into this film. I do rent and purchase videos on VHS and
DVD but viewing and listening to it on a tv (I wish I had surround sound...)
suffers in comparison to the movie theater experience. There is a fantastic
amount of minute detail that can be seen on the big screen.

  I'm very fortunate in that "TPM" is playing at a new United Artists
theater complex just five or six minutes down the street from me. Oftentimes
on my day off I check out the movie listings and showtimes on the web and
just head for the movies before lunchtime.

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I especially have to agree with that.  It's well worth while seeing it the
way it was meant to be seen.  I'm very lucky here because my local cinemas
have THX sound.  In particular I found TPM and The Matrix's sound extremely
good, as well as the vision quality.  I don't think either movie could be
appreciated if they were seen on TV.

And also my comments on The Matrix (since I happen to love this movie :)

I thought that it was an excellent movie, anyone that has the chance to see
it in a cinema should definately take the time if possible, because it's
well worth it.  One of the things that I most enjoyed about it was that I
was able to go and watch it, and it had a massive mental impact on me and I
didn't even think about the effects used in it.  It actually (and this may
sound really stupid) gave me a heightened sense of my surroundings.  I think
it had the same impact on everyone else too, because when everyone walked
out, no one said anything at all...

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>On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 08:39:47 -0700, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbellnet> wrote:
>
>>  I haven't seen it yet myself and will probably wait for it to come out
>>on cable in a year or two.
>
>  Hi, Ken. If you can possibly find the time to see "The Phantom Menace"
>during a weekday matinee (no lines, cheap ticket prices) you will be seeing
>the movie the way it is meant to be seen. No television can do justice to
>the work that went into this film. I do rent and purchase videos on VHS and
>DVD but viewing and listening to it on a tv (I wish I had surround
sound...)
>suffers in comparison to the movie theater experience. There is a fantastic
>amount of minute detail that can be seen on the big screen.
>
>  I'm very fortunate in that "TPM" is playing at a new United Artists
>theater complex just five or six minutes down the street from me.
Oftentimes
>on my day off I check out the movie listings and showtimes on the web and
>just head for the movies before lunchtime.
>
>--
>Alan
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