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From: Rick
Subject: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 09:59:07
Message: <373ec11b.1@news.povray.org>
Hi all,

Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
CPU?

Rick


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From: Bob Hughes
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 12:26:42
Message: <373EE3A6.A5C52D65@aol.com>
Heck, get an electric cooler unit (12 Volt DC) and mount it in the case. A
bit expensive maybe but would be like airconditioning for your computer.
Btw, I haven't tried this, just sounds as feasible as anything else,
actually I may have even heard of it being done.

P.S. It would more than likely need to be other than the cooler chest type
thing (igloo KoolMate, Coleman, etc.) and more the CCD cooler as with
telescope video due to the amperage requirements. Also, I'm not to keen on
running water anywhere near my PC, one was in an inch of water once due to
a indoor line break and seems okay, I'm just not in any hurry to tempt
fate again.


Rick wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
> site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
> wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
> CPU?
> 
> Rick

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From: Mike
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 13:06:54
Message: <373EEB91.45448F1@aol.com>
I tried this once, but my goldfish didn't care for the case being in their
tank.

-Mike

Rick wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
> site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
> wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
> CPU?
>
> Rick


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 13:21:13
Message: <373EF03D.39F9DA56@pacbell.net>
Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> Heck, get an electric cooler unit (12 Volt DC) and mount it in the case. A
> bit expensive maybe but would be like airconditioning for your computer.
> Btw, I haven't tried this, just sounds as feasible as anything else,
> actually I may have even heard of it being done.

  There are peltier junction heat sinks available now and you are
right the little suckers draw quite a bit of current. They also
have this nasty habit of producing a cold surface on one side and
a hot surface on the other. You may be cooling the CPU but you are
also pumping a lot of heat into the computer enclosure itself
multiplying your heat dissipation problems.
 Personaly and from experience with cooling industrial power supply
diodes and power transistors I would attack it with large amounts of
aluminium and a dedicated high velocity fan before I would go with
the liquid cooling option.
  The majority of the little cooling fans they place on CPU's
are no more effective that a moth hired to flap it's wings over
the thing. There simply is not enough airflow to dissipate any
appreciable amount of heat. The type they use inside of the power
supply however is about the right size. If mounted with it's air
flow passing over a considerable amount of cooling surface, in
the form of a heat sink, it should easily keep up with your wildest
over clocking experiments.
  Just be sure to use the proper methods of attaching a heat sink to
a CPU's surface to maximize it's performance. IF you can't get your
hands on thermaly conductive adhesive you should at least be able to
find some thermal heat sink grease for the job. If you can't find the
thermal grease at a local electronics parts store you can get it in
small tubes at an auto parts store. They sell it for treating the
mating surfaces of electronic ignition modules to the side of the
distributor housing.

 
> P.S. It would more than likely need to be other than the cooler chest type
> thing (igloo KoolMate, Coleman, etc.) and more the CCD cooler as with
> telescope video due to the amperage requirements. Also, I'm not to keen on
> running water anywhere near my PC, one was in an inch of water once due to
> a indoor line break and seems okay, I'm just not in any hurry to tempt
> fate again.

  I agree with you on that one. While the mother board would probably
survive a couple assults like that hard drives, CD drives, DVD and Zip
dirves, and your power supplies are much less forgiving in that respect
and don't react kindly to high moisture bearing materials like water.

-- 
Ken Tyler

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From: Alan Kong
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 14:21:04
Message: <3742fc6b.48437745@news.povray.org>
On Sun, 16 May 1999 13:58:18 +0100, "Rick" <kit### [at] dialpipexcom>
wrote:

>Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
>site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
>wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
>CPU?

  I've heard of these solutions but haven't had a chance to explore
how they are actually implemented, Rick.

  I'd just as soon construct a box that directs cool, filtered air
into the computer case through ducting and hoses rather than risk the
hazard of electrical shock or fire resulting from an accident
involving water.

  Do you really need the extra cooling?
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From: Jim Kress
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 16 May 1999 15:00:38
Message: <373f07c6.0@news.povray.org>
Try these links for the ultimate cooling methodology.

http://www.tomshardware.com/kryotech.html

http://www.kryotech.com/


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Rick wrote in message <373ec11b.1@news.povray.org>...
>Hi all,
>
>Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU, I have found many
>site's on the net about it, and most have proved to be very reliable, just
>wondering if anybody had taken this approach so as to be able to occ the
>CPU?
>
>Rick
>
>


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From: Nieminen Mika
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 17 May 1999 08:20:41
Message: <373ffb89.0@news.povray.org>
Rick <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote:
: Has anybody experimented with water cooling there CPU

  Why would I want to do that?

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From: Rick
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 17 May 1999 11:10:15
Message: <37402347.0@news.povray.org>
I have had a look at the kryotech stuff, and there -40 is very mipressive,
but is only avaiable if you buy a whole ready mady system.

they do sell an empty case, but it only cools to roomtemp, and in quite a
few tests, has not proved anymore effective than sticking the biggest fan
you can find in.

Pelters are nice, but as someone pointed out have a habit of cooling your
CPU at the expense of heating ecerything else.

I am looking at building an external cooling unit and pumping antifreze
around the system, I have a few ideas, and hope to get the cpu temp to a few
deg C below 0.

there is a problem with condensation forming inside the case, but i think
this can be overcome with good insulation, pet. jelly, and silica Gel :)

as to why, why not, maybe i can get my cpu to OC an extra notch or 2, run it
24/7 with no fear of it turning into a blackened lump overnight with either
rendering, or running data from seti

Attached image from someone else's liquid coolded CPU project

Rick


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From: Bill DeWitt
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 17 May 1999 11:26:26
Message: <37402712.0@news.povray.org>
Rick <kit### [at] dialpipexcom> wrote in message
news:37402347.0@news.povray.org...
> I have had a look at the kryotech stuff, and there -40 is very mipressive,
> but is only avaiable if you buy a whole ready mady system.
>

    Just a question and pardon me for not knowing -anything- about the
topic, but if you are going to spend $500+ for a cooling system, why don't
you just buy a faster chip?


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From: Ken
Subject: Re: WELL OT : Water Cooling you CPU
Date: 17 May 1999 12:17:39
Message: <374032DD.31C118FD@pacbell.net>
Bill DeWitt wrote:

>     Just a question and pardon me for not knowing -anything- about the
> topic, but if you are going to spend $500+ for a cooling system, why don't
> you just buy a faster chip?

Ah common Bill ! Quit being so da_n  practicle for Pete's sake.

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