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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 26 Apr 1999 15:25:46
Message: <3724afaa.0@news.povray.org>
I'm thinking of turning over a spare drive to Linux to run Pov on (I presume
this is already a "you know you've been poving too long when....").

Can anyone confirm that unix pov is faster than win pov on the same
hardware? (Pentium 100).

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Tom Melly
tom### [at] aolcom
http://members.aol.com/tomandlu


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 26 Apr 1999 18:41:45
Message: <3724DC60.77BFDE5D@bahnhof.se>
Not with stats, but yes.

It's faster, but even more important, you have more RAM over for pov in linux
than in a "trimmed" windows .


Tom Melly wrote:
> 
> I'm thinking of turning over a spare drive to Linux to run Pov on (I presume
> this is already a "you know you've been poving too long when....").
> 
> Can anyone confirm that unix pov is faster than win pov on the same
> hardware? (Pentium 100).
> 
> --
> Tom Melly
> tom### [at] aolcom
> http://members.aol.com/tomandlu

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//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Mark Gordon
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 27 Apr 1999 01:40:44
Message: <37253FFF.B39DC9C1@mailbag.com>
POV-Ray 3.1 for Linux should run faster on a P-100 than the Windows
version, but it actually runs slower on my dual-booting PII-333.  The
POV-Ray binary for Windows is compiled with Pentium II optimizations
that help on a Pentium II but may actually run slower on a Pentium, as I
understand it.  I can't confirm this, since I don't have VC++, and the
only Pentium machine I have is a dedicated Linux box.  I also have no
idea how well or poorly the binaries run on non-Intel CPU's.

I'm looking into different compilers in hopes of regaining the across
the board performance advantage of Linux.  I don't expect anyone would
complain of POV-Ray got faster. ;-)  If we end up distributing binaries
that don't work well on some CPU's, Linux (and other Unix) users can
recompile it for their CPU's more readily than most users.

Spider wrote:
> 
> Not with stats, but yes.
> 
> It's faster, but even more important, you have more RAM over for pov in linux
> than in a "trimmed" windows .
> 
> Tom Melly wrote:
> >
> > I'm thinking of turning over a spare drive to Linux to run Pov on (I presume
> > this is already a "you know you've been poving too long when....").
> >
> > Can anyone confirm that unix pov is faster than win pov on the same
> > hardware? (Pentium 100).

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Mark Gordon
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From: Jan Schäfer
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 27 Apr 1999 04:57:22
Message: <37256DDC.B8B3452A@imise.uni-leipzig.de>
Mark Gordon schrieb:
> 
> POV-Ray 3.1 for Linux should run faster on a P-100 than the Windows
> version, but it actually runs slower on my dual-booting PII-333.  The
> POV-Ray binary for Windows is compiled with Pentium II optimizations
> that help on a Pentium II but may actually run slower on a Pentium, as > I
> understand it.  I can't confirm this, since I don't have VC++, and the
> only Pentium machine I have is a dedicated Linux box.  I also have no
> idea how well or poorly the binaries run on non-Intel CPU's.


3.1e on my AMD-K6-maschine. Linux was always faster than Windows until I set the
render priority to highest in the Windows version. But than you can do nothing


An other scene made by me was rendered on Linux in about 5 minutes and the
Windows version took about 6 minutes. (800 x 600, A0.3)

I must say, that I have not recompiled the Linux version. I took the binaries as
they were.

So long,

Jan


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From: Tom Melly
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 27 Apr 1999 12:12:50
Message: <3725d3f2.0@news.povray.org>
>....Linux was always faster than Windows until I set the
>render priority to highest in the Windows version. But than you can do
nothing
>else with your computer...

According to my partner, I don't do anything on my computer apart from POV
anyway ;)

It looks like I won't gain much from Linux. However, I'll still go for it,
and, if my computer ever talks to me again, I'll try posting some
comparative render times.

"you know you've been poving too long when you think about asking Ken to
your wedding."

(actually, if you're getting married, you obviously haven't been poving
nearly long enough).


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 27 Apr 1999 13:48:36
Message: <37259F08.C84BB609@bahnhof.se>

> 

> Mark Gordon schrieb:
> >
> > POV-Ray 3.1 for Linux should run faster on a P-100 than the Windows
> > version, but it actually runs slower on my dual-booting PII-333.  The

> > POV-Ray binary for Windows is compiled with Pentium II optimizations
> > that help on a Pentium II but may actually run slower on a Pentium, a
s > I
> > understand it.  I can't confirm this, since I don't have VC++, and th
e
> > only Pentium machine I have is a dedicated Linux box.  I also have no

> > idea how well or poorly the binaries run on non-Intel CPU's.
> 


of POV-Ray
> 3.1e on my AMD-K6-maschine. Linux was always faster than Windows until 
I set the
> render priority to highest in the Windows version. But than you can do 
nothing

s.
> 

> An other scene made by me was rendered on Linux in about 5 minutes and 
the
> Windows version took about 6 minutes. (800 x 600, A0.3)
> 

> I must say, that I have not recompiled the Linux version. I took the bi
naries as
> they were.
Hmm, just have to ask, what happened if you reniced POV in linux to take 
full(or
close to) priority ? Have you tested this ?





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//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Jon A  Cruz
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 28 Apr 1999 01:37:17
Message: <3726906C.87B555DB@geocities.com>
Tom Melly wrote:

> According to my partner, I don't do anything on my computer apart from POV
> anyway ;)
>
> It looks like I won't gain much from Linux. However, I'll still go for it,
> and, if my computer ever talks to me again, I'll try posting some
> comparative render times.

Go Linux!!!!
You need The Gimp, Enlightenment, Gnome, LinNeighborhood, emacs, the updated
POV mode for emacs...
and ZOOOM!

(I finally made the transition at home just a couple of months ago, but it
has breathed new life into my ol' 133)


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From: Jan Schäfer
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 28 Apr 1999 04:15:09
Message: <3726B578.BA89ED60@imise.uni-leipzig.de>
Spider schrieb:
> Hmm, just have to ask, what happened if you reniced POV in linux to take full(or
> close to) priority ? Have you tested this ?

Not yet. I tried but had a problem to run PovRay as root. But I think if you set




Jan


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From: Spider
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 28 Apr 1999 15:55:55
Message: <372740BE.95C904D5@bahnhof.se>
Yes, but what i meant was that in WIN, you can't work while pov is runnin
g on
full priority, and to compare that to linux using a normal mode (nice=0
, i
think) it's not that great, is it? at lest not in obectivity...

but then, when I left my puter for the weekend i had it running at nice -
15....
*hehe*

as for running pov as root, you don't need to, only use top to renice it 
once
running. (sure, you need to be root to renice to negative values..) 




> 

> Spider schrieb:
> > Hmm, just have to ask, what happened if you reniced POV in linux to t
ake full(or
> > close to) priority ? Have you tested this ?
> 

> Not yet. I tried but had a problem to run PovRay as root. But I think i
f you set

ing on

or the

 Gray ;-)
> 

> Jan

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//Spider
        [ spi### [at] bahnhofse ]-[ http://www.bahnhof.se/~spider/ ]
What I can do and what I could do, I just don't know anymore
                "Marian"
        By: "Sisters Of Mercy"


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From: Jan Schaefer
Subject: Re: Linux Pov vs. Win Pov
Date: 29 Apr 1999 10:19:39
Message: <37285C60.4465C69A@imise.uni-leipzig.de>
Spider schrieb:
> 
> as for running pov as root, you don't need to, only use top to renice it once
> running. (sure, you need to be root to renice to negative values..)
> 



in the next days.

Jan


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