Whoooa, Too long post for me to reply in a good way, I'm afraid that I
won't be able to do the same, So I'll just thank you for sharing your
opinions and thoughts.

AS for switching to Linux, I'm limited by the fact that I don't have HDD
enough to do it. (I AM)Sorry, and I can't go without windoze... *sigh*

As for the port, it seemed fairly unstable(Whooa, I'm used to this :-)
and there seems to be a lot of other things to fix. (isn't there
always?)


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Jerry Anning wrote:
> 
> On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 02:42:32 +0100, Spider <spi### [at] bahnhofse> wrote:
> 
> >Ok, I've used Gimp in a Linux system, once. I got caught on it.
> >Now, I browsed the web for some interesting things, and found this port
> >of GIMP for Win32.
> >My question is, has anyone here tried it? (I know this is offtopic, and
> >should probably be put into some other group on usenet, but, I don't
> >have the time or ability to read in so many groups. Sorry.)
> >
> >Links :
> >http://www.gimp.org/~tml/gimp/win32/
> >http://www.iki.fi/tml/gimp/win32/
> 
> I use it.  It is very good, indeed.  The main gotcha is that it is
> based on 1.1, so many of your script-fu scripts need a bit of fixing.
> Basically, if a script barfs on a gimp-* command, check to see if it
> takes an image as the first parameter and if so eliminate that
> parameter completely.  OTOH, 1.1 script-fu has very nice sliders, font
> selection boxes, color selectors and other goodies.  Both 1.1 and the
> Win port are beta code, but they are very good beta code and the thing
> is quite usable.  I would suggest, though, that you subscribe to the
> gimpwin-users and possibly the gimpwin-dev mailing lists in order to
> keep up with changes.  Tor has ported standard plugins and scripts
> already, the cautions above apply mainly to self written or legacy
> scripts.  If you are a GIMP-er or become one, you may want to start
> reading comp.graphics.apps.gimp.
Thankyou for this informaiton. I'll take a peek at them.

> *** On-topic bit to salve my conscience ***
> 
> The GIMP is great for designing color gradients, and can export them
> in POV format.  It can also be used to turn tga's into animated gifs.
neato. I was planning to do some nice HeightFields with it... (Got tired
of PSP)


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I suppose I'll be changing the subject back OT, On Topic that is. :)

I use POV-Ray for making all sorts of gradients and 2D effects.  The
textures are really useful for that sort of thing.  One of my favorites
is making special gradients for use as bump maps.  One with wider black
areas than white are great for the flutes on a columns.  Works good for
the riges on a garbage can too, just need to touch up the top and
bottom.

Anyway, just one of the other uses I found for POV.

-Mike
 
> *** On-topic bit to salve my conscience ***
> 
> The GIMP is great for designing color gradients, and can export them
> in POV format.  It can also be used to turn tga's into animated gifs.
> 
> Jerry Anning
> clem "at" dhol "dot" com

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Mike wrote:
> 
> I suppose I'll be changing the subject back OT, On Topic that is. :)
> 
> I use POV-Ray for making all sorts of gradients and 2D effects.  The
> textures are really useful for that sort of thing.  One of my favorites
> is making special gradients for use as bump maps.  One with wider black
> areas than white are great for the flutes on a columns.  Works good for
> the riges on a garbage can too, just need to touch up the top and
> bottom.
> 
> Anyway, just one of the other uses I found for POV.
> 
> -Mike

  I too am thrilled when I can use Pov to create the tools it needs to
make it more effectivete than it already is. A well designed gradient
also makes great corregated metal for out buildings and the ocassional
quansit hut or tool shed. Also would work for aluminum siding on a
trailer house but I don't know anyone who would stoop so low asss to actualy
render one. There are just some things that raytracing shouldn't be asked
to do.

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Targa files? I have the latest Gimp for Windows (I think, since it
updates so often) and had a previous one too and I haven't seen TGA on
the list of files it will handle yet. Could you please enlighten me as
to this tga 2 gif thing, Jerry, pretty please?
This seemed curious to me that Gimp would be lacking in TGA use.
And, wow, yes... this thing breaks down a lot on my Windows machine, but
it's so neat to play with hard to resist.


Jerry Anning wrote:
> 
> The GIMP is great for designing color gradients, and can export them
> in POV format.  It can also be used to turn tga's into animated gifs.
> 
> Jerry Anning
> clem "at" dhol "dot" com

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Bob Hughes wrote:
> 
> This seemed curious to me that Gimp would be lacking in TGA use.

  I read a news posting in comp.graphic.misc this morning and a person was
giving advice as to which, in his own inestimable opinion, graphics file
formats were of the highest quality and popular for use. Of the top two
mentioned were tiffs and eps.. There was no mention of tga or png and I
seriously doubt he had ever given them more than a passing interest.
  This attitude I feel must stem from the overwhelming amount of people
using computers for graphics work primarily in word processing programs
and that 2d paint stuff. Since the opinion of the majority is often
slanted by what are the mainstream programs in use, such as MS publishing
and Corel and Photo shop, they are only interested in the image file
formats common to those programs. I thought about challenging him on
his top choices but realized who I was dealing with and graciously
moved on.
  With this in mind I don't find it at all surprising when I find a
program not supporting a format that I want supported. I often
find out later that while the file type I want support for is not
only adequate for it's applied use, there are times it is superior
to the ones that are supported as popular and "best". The mainstream
opinion has a lot of influence on what choices we may have tommorow.
Almost like a self imposed dictatorship.

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I seem to recall that tiffs and tgas are related...am I wrong?

Steve


Ken wrote:
> 
> Bob Hughes wrote:
> >
> > This seemed curious to me that Gimp would be lacking in TGA use.
> 
>   I read a news posting in comp.graphic.misc this morning and a person was
> giving advice as to which, in his own inestimable opinion, graphics file
> formats were of the highest quality and popular for use. Of the top two
> mentioned were tiffs and eps.. There was no mention of tga or png and I
> seriously doubt he had ever given them more than a passing interest.
>   This attitude I feel must stem from the overwhelming amount of people
> using computers for graphics work primarily in word processing programs
> and that 2d paint stuff. Since the opinion of the majority is often
> slanted by what are the mainstream programs in use, such as MS publishing
> and Corel and Photo shop, they are only interested in the image file
> formats common to those programs. I thought about challenging him on
> his top choices but realized who I was dealing with and graciously
> moved on.
>   With this in mind I don't find it at all surprising when I find a
> program not supporting a format that I want supported. I often
> find out later that while the file type I want support for is not
> only adequate for it's applied use, there are times it is superior
> to the ones that are supported as popular and "best". The mainstream
> opinion has a lot of influence on what choices we may have tommorow.
> Almost like a self imposed dictatorship.
> 
> --
> Ken Tyler
> 
> mailto://tylereng@pacbell.net

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tiff and tga both start with 'T', that's about it  :-)

tiff are used a lot in publishing, printing etc.
Targa files were used a lot with Truevision graphics cards. I started using them
because they were about the only cross-platform truecolor format that was
standard at the time. Sure beats the pants off of .pcx


Stephen Lavedas wrote:

> I seem to recall that tiffs and tgas are related...am I wrong?
>
> Steve
>

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This Micrografx Picture Publisher I have insists on TIFF as its
predominate format of choice. However I never use them. I have a tiff
file here off the internet which I was going to convert to tga and the
tiff doesn't even open so I can do it. Implies something specialized
about them, possibly a number of variants. Targas have variants too but
the only problem I've ever encountered in them is whether they are
compressed or not as far as a program or two is concerned when
attempting to use them. But anyway, the question of Gimp using tga files
is still up in the air far as I'm concerned. I'm on the Gimp Users
mailing list, I should check with it more often I suppose instead of try
and keep up in here... nah!


"Jon A. Cruz" wrote:
> 
> tiff and tga both start with 'T', that's about it  :-)
> 
> tiff are used a lot in publishing, printing etc.
> Targa files were used a lot with Truevision graphics cards. I started using them
> because they were about the only cross-platform truecolor format that was
> standard at the time. Sure beats the pants off of .pcx
> 
> Stephen Lavedas wrote:
> 
> > I seem to recall that tiffs and tgas are related...am I wrong?
> >
> > Steve
> >

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gimp W32 don't do TGA, gimp W32 does PNG.




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