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Good to hear!!!
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>Nope. Even assuming human history began anywhere close to
2000 years
>ago, which we're pretty sure it hasn't, one year from now
we will be
>just beginning the 2000th year AD.
What does the christian religion say? (I don't know anything
about religious stuff)
Was good old Christ born in the year 0 or 1? And why wasn't
he born on january the 1st? If we weren't even able to get
the /year/ right (cause some people believe he was born in 4
BC, well not BC, because he wasn't born before he was
born.... never mind :) then why are we so precise on the
/day/? It would be much simpler to start counting the years
from his birth on jan. 1st.
Maybe we should make comprimise.... let's say the birth took
a while... like 4 years from 4 BC to 0 (that's when his head
popped out) and he was all the way through in 1 AD...
...... pfff ...........
interesting discussion... :)
Julius
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Ronald L. Parker wrote:
> On Sun, 03 Jan 1999 05:42:59 -0800, Ken <tyl### [at] pacbell net> wrote:
>
> >I don't get it. When new years day rolls around won't 2000 years
> >of human history have passed or not. Of course it will have.
> >Give it a rest and party on dude.
>
> Nope. Even assuming human history began anywhere close to 2000 years
> ago, which we're pretty sure it hasn't, one year from now we will be
> just beginning the 2000th year AD. 1-1000 were the first thousand,
> and 1001-2000 will be the second thousand. The third thousand begins
> on January 1, 2001 (disregarding a few calendar changes throughout the
> preceding centuries, which the pedants among us will refuse to do...
> hey, three parties!)
Hmm, considering that no one is really sure how much time passed for
sure after Christ's birth until the year one and that the calendar
wasn't started for quite a number of years after his death anyway, who
is to say for sure that there wasn't a year zero. For that matter, who
is to say for sure that there were years 1 through whatever year the
calendar was started. So lets just say that the years 000 - 999 were
the millennium of years that didn't have a fourth column and that 1999
is the last of the millennium of years that started with a 1 in the
fourth column, and now we can confidently say that the year 2000 is
the beginning of the millennium of years that start with a 2 in the
fourth column. :)
George
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Julius Klatte wrote:
...
> Was good old Christ born in the year 0 or 1? And why wasn't
> he born on january the 1st?
...
> It would be much simpler to start counting the years
> from his birth on jan. 1st.
...
This is an incomplete response, but here goes: Christ wasn't born on January
first because months were around, more or less, before the Christian calendar.
The Romans had a calendar where the years were referred to by the tribunes in
power at the time (kinda like if we were to referr to 1998 as "the sixth year
of Clinton's time in office" or something like that). It's because of the
Romans that we get months with names like September, October, etc., which mean
'seventh month,' 'eighth month,' and so on. ...Yes, September is the ninth
month: when Julius Caesar came along, some 50 years before Christ, (whenever
that was), he noticed that there was some part of the calendar which wasn't
split into months like the rest of the year, so he created the month we know
of as "July", and because he wanted his month to be special, stole a day from
February so that July could have 31 days. After he was killed, the next
emperor, named Octavian, or Augustus Caesar (can you see where this is going?)
took the remaining 30 days and named it "August", and he too stole a day from
February for his month. (Augustus, by the way, is a Latin word for venerable,
majestic, or first -- so that the eighth month means first, and the ninth
month means seventh... oh well.)
-Mark R.
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Julius Klatte <jku### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
: What does the christian religion say? (I don't know anything
: about religious stuff)
: Was good old Christ born in the year 0 or 1? And why wasn't
: he born on january the 1st?
1) There's no such a thing as "year 0". There is only year 1 BC and after
that year 1 AD.
2) The Gregorian calendar was created hundreds of years after Christ.
Some researches estimate that Christ was born several decades BC (I know
this statement may sound a bit silly :) ).
3) Carefully studying the Bible shows that Christ was very improbably
born in Dec 25, but more probably in the autumn (actually Dec 25 was the
birthday of the Sun god in the Roman religion).
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Well, I think it's about time to end this thread, I'm sorry I ever brought
up the 2001 thing... But, there is a lot of interesting information here, I
know I've learnt a lot of stuff in the past few days!!!
Oh, and thanks, you pointed out there was no year 0, which solves the issue
more or less (yeah yeah, apart from all the "christ wasn't born then" thing)
:-)
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I hate to tell you this, but you're still wrong. It would make no sense to
have a year 0 because the "first" year is 1st, meaning, you can't have a 0th
year... Otherwise the year wouldn't exist. 0 is just the point in time,
not a whole year.
So, when you were first born, were you instantly 1 year old? Or more to the
point, during your 1st year of life, were you still 0 years old? Of course
you weren't (well, at least I don't think so...). 0 is the point you were
born, and from there on you're in your 1st year of existance, so, if we
based a calendar on you, 0 would be the point at which you were born, and
the first year would be 1. So, 2000 years later, the 2000th year has to
finish completely before 2000 years have passed, otherwise it's like saying
that when you were born you were already one year old.
See?
Well, personally, I've had enough fun here and this thread is getting way
too long, so I'm shutting up now.
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Lance.
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Lance Birch wrote:
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> Well, I think it's about time to end this thread, I'm sorry I ever brought
> up the 2001 thing... But, there is a lot of interesting information here, I
> know I've learnt a lot of stuff in the past few days!!!
>
> Oh, and thanks, you pointed out there was no year 0, which solves the issue
> more or less (yeah yeah, apart from all the "christ wasn't born then" thing)
> :-)
...
and Lance Birch also wrote:
...
> Well, personally, I've had enough fun here and this thread is getting way
> too long, so I'm shutting up now.
...
Thanks -- I'm glad someone appreciated the irrelevant info.
Yes, it is getting long... it happens, strangely, to threads that don't have
much to do with POV-Ray.
-Mark R.
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Ken wrote:
> I'm glad to hear that Pov is y2k compliant. I am
> surprised that when you reset your system clock that
> it didn't hang on you, the worlds economy didn't collapsed,
> fires did not spread through every city in the world,
> aircraft did not go spinning out of the sky, and my
> electricitry is still running at 60 cycles per second,
> but I guess you can't believe EVERYTHING you hear.
One of my friends tested his old Amstrad 386 a while back for y2k compliancy, he
loaded the BIOS config program (a weird Amstrad way of working) and watched as it
turned from 1999->2000, a message popped up saying: 'I didn't expect to see you
here'. Those were the days.
Graham Redway.
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Nieminen Mika wrote:
>
> Julius Klatte <jku### [at] hotmailcom> wrote:
> : What does the christian religion say? (I don't know anything
> : about religious stuff)
> : Was good old Christ born in the year 0 or 1? And why wasn't
> : he born on january the 1st?
>
> 1) There's no such a thing as "year 0". There is only year 1 BC and after
> that year 1 AD.
> 2) The Gregorian calendar was created hundreds of years after Christ.
> Some researches estimate that Christ was born several decades BC (I know
> this statement may sound a bit silly :) ).
> 3) Carefully studying the Bible shows that Christ was very improbably
> born in Dec 25, but more probably in the autumn (actually Dec 25 was the
> birthday of the Sun god in the Roman religion).
Sorry to prolong this thread so much, but I just saw this, and had to reply...
In Scandinavia (Sweden,Norge, Island, Denmark) there was a great party at the winter
solstice, and since the priest couldn't stand this, they also had to add a religious
holiday around the same time. This is one other reason to put the holiday at that
time.
//Spider
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